lily8 wrote:Finding Constance was quite a challenge as there are no BMD's online I found a grave reference for Ellen/Nellie Ascroft Prime (nee Foley) she had a long life exceeding 90 years. Of Constance no trace until I found a border crossing for Ellen and her husband and both listed a David (couldn't attempt a try at surname as too badly written) as a son in law. This led me to thinking that Constance was dead (early 1940's) so I tried for a grave in Calgary and finally came up with a Constance Drinnan died 1936. Following that I found a family tree on Ancestry showing a David Drinnan but with wife and children listed as Private. I know that David Drinnan married a second time so the hildren and there are a lot of them may or may not belong to Constance. I have no evidence to back any of this up other than the crossing record, so with your permission I would send a message to the tree holder to see if they can confirm??????
BOBHAMO wrote:His son William Alf had a estate office 155 stanley road by trinity road
not sure if you have all family history his peters faher Thomas was born in wigan
peter was born down marsh lane
the photo is in derby park garden party 1900 only peter and wife mentioned
the photo can be purchased
lindy2703 wrote:Jumping in here Henry and lily8 just to confirm that Peter Ascroft’s son William Alfred ( known as Alf) was my grandfather. In the census it doesn’t mention his wife Marian ( nee Hocknell) because they were separated at the time. They had 3 children Bill ( William Ernest ) Peter ( Peter Alfred, my father) and Ruth ( who also had her mother’s name Marian either as a first or middle name but was known as Ruth) so Alf lived there with his 3 grown up children. They separated when Ruth ( the youngest) was 16. They were separated for about 25 years I think until Alf retired and bought 3 farms up in Euxton near Chorley Lancashire. He then asked his wife if she would like to go and live there as his housekeeper which she did. So as a child I visited every other weekend and just saw my grandparents together as in any family ( although they did have separate bedrooms !) Alf ( Pop to us) loved farming and had lived at Mill Farm, Aintree, where my father was born, early on in his marriage and although my father was a solicitor with a practice in London and Brighton after the war he decided to chuck it all in and go back north to be a farmer with his Dad. I was born there and we lived there until 1952 when my mother informed him she’d married a solicitor not a farmer and she was going back to Liverpool! Hence Dad went back to being a solicitor in Liverpool and Bootle and we lived at 161 Stanley Road until 1958. Ruth did indeed marry Cecil Pritchard who was killed in the war and her son David, (Cecil William David) was born August 1944. She later remarried and had 2 more sons and lived in Lytham St. Anne’s. As far as I know my grandfather ran the estate agency in Bootle (possibly with Great uncle Bert) and yes, there were a lot of properties all rentals but bit by bit they sold them off to the tenants or otherwise. Also correctly many were destroyed during the bombings. My uncle Bill used to do the rent collecting and took over the estate agency when Alf retired. Alf and both boys were special constables at the beginning of the war but the boys soon joined the army. I will post a photo of my parent’s wedding ( January 1942) where you can see the whole family when I have a minute to upload it. They married at Christ Church Bootle. My grandfather and family lived at The Old Hall at the top left of Merton Road near the church after they moved from Aintree and my father and his brother had to take it in turns to check on their grandmother Sarah every evening up at Lurlei Breeze Hill as she was widowed then. Any questions just ask and thanks to all of you for all the fascinating information
lily8 wrote:Sorry Henry I can't answer those questions except to say that in war time papers may have been lost due to bombing etc, they were married for sure.
A little further on Marian/Ruth above she sadly lost her husband in the war
Commonwealth War Graves gives the following
26 Jun 1944
Branch at Enlistment:
Royal Armoured Corps
Theatre of War:
Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
Regiment at Death:
Royal Armoured Corps
Branch at Death:
Royal Armoured Corps
Also from probate records
Pritchard Cecil, the Caravan Twist Farm Green Lane Ford Nr Liverpool, died 28/6/1944 on war service to Marian Ruth Pritchard effects 380 plus pounds.
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