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70 I doubt that any of the men here will still be with us, but perhaps family members will recognise them.
The photo was taken in 1958 and shows the Liverpool Co-op team..failed finalists for the English Baseball Cup.
My late brother Frank Hawkins is in the back row, 3 Rd from the left.....
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Well is Tommy Barnes still in Bootle that is my first question
My next question can l use quotes and adds from Tommy's book in this site
Have got loads of information on other things on the JOC can l use this
Regards Bobby

Met a cracking fellow on Friday in the Mayflower Bootle, please post that name you said of Bootle lad played for Everton.

Bobby
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Well, Starting to look into the history of the JOC.
Looking into the organization of football in bootle
Well first of all l must thank Tommy Barnes The Bootle Connections
Players of 1970s
Players of 1950s
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Bit of history l was sent

One of the greatest players in football history, the legendary Hungary and Real Madrid star Ferenc Puskas, is to have a permanent link with Merseyside.

A campaign by Liverpool doctor Andrew Zsigmond, the city’s honorary consul of Hungary, will end in a civic ceremony next month when a blue plaque in memory of Puskas will be unveiled at South Liverpool Parkway rail interchange, the former site of the ground where he played one of his last matches.

In May 1967, at the age of 40, Puskas answered a call from Bankfield House community centre to play in a fund-raising all-stars charity match at South Liverpool FC’s home Holly Park.
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Another bit of history about Bootle Football

Andrew Watson (24 May 1856 – 8 March 1921) is widely considered to be the world's first black person to play association football at international level.[2][3][4] He played three matches for Scotland between 1881 and 1882. Arthur Wharton was commonly thought to be Britain's first black player, as he was the first black professional footballer and the first to play in the Football League, but Watson's career predated him by over a decade.

Club career[edit]
After first playing for Maxwell in 1876, Watson signed for local side Parkgrove, where he was additionally their match secretary,[2] making him the first black administrator in football.[4] At Parkgrove he played alongside another black player, Robert Walker.[7]
He also took part in athletics competitions, winning the high jump on several occasions.
On 14 April 1880, he was selected to represent Glasgow against Sheffield; Glasgow won 1–0 at Bramall Lane. He was also selected for a tour to Canada in the summer of 1880 which was cancelled after the death of William Dick, secretary of the Scottish Football Association.[6]
In April 1880, he also signed for Queen's Park – then Britain's largest football team – and became their secretary in November 1881. He led the team to several Scottish Cup wins, thus becoming the first black player to win a major competition.[4]
Watson's entry in the Scottish Football Association Annual of 1880–81 reads as follows:[6]
"Watson, Andrew: One of the very best backs we have; since joining Queen's Park has made rapid strides to the front as a player; has great speed and tackles splendidly; powerful and sure kick; well worthy of a place in any representative team."
In 1882, he moved to London and became the first black player to play in the English Cup when he turned out for Swifts.[2] In 1883, he was the first foreign player to be invited to join the leading amateur club in England, the Corinthians. During his time there, this included an 8–1 victory against Blackburn Rovers, who were at that time the English Cup holders.[8] He also played for other amateur English clubs, including Pilgrims, Brentwood, and London Caledonians.[6]
The colour of his skin was of no significance to his peers, and there is no historical record of racism on the part of the Scottish Football Association.[9] One match report is more interested in Watson's unusual brown boots rather than the customary black boots of that time.[9] As written in the minutes, before one match where Watson was injured and unable to play, an SFA vice-president said if Watson had been fit he would have happily drugged a fellow Scottish international to give Watson his place.[citation needed] He played his last match for Queen's Park in 1886.
Paul McDonald, writing for the BBC, noted: "Payments to players had been made legal in England in 1885 and professional footballers were paid decent salaries for that time. Ironically this attracted many Scottish players southwards to ply their trade in England, whereas in Scotland the game remained, in theory anyway, an amateur game until 1893."[10]
Watson signed for Merseyside club Bootle in 1887.[5] Bootle offered wages and signing fees to a number of players, but it is unknown whether Watson was paid.[5] If he was, this would predate the professional career of Arthur Wharton, who is generally considered to be the first black footballer to play professionally.[5]
International career[edit]
Watson won three international caps for Scotland.[3] His first cap came for Scotland in a match against England in London on 12 March 1881, in which he captained the side.[11] Scotland won 6–1, which (as of 2019) is still a record home defeat for England.[12] A few days later, Scotland played Wales and won 5–1.
Watson's last cap came against England in Glasgow on 11 March 1882. This was a 5–1 victory again to Scotland.[13] Watson moved to London in the summer of 1882, which effectively ended his international career as the SFA only picked players based in Scotland at this time.[5]
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Well, everyone, there are loads of facts with regards to Bootle Football
Jimmy Gee and Ray Mears must never be forgotten from Bootle
I have and will do some more research into these players
Tommy Barnes The Bootle Connections is a cracking read but has not mentioned Ray and other players.
So with the information l have l will try to do what Tommy has done ( l must say Tommy has done fantastic work with regards to football history in Bootle ) Thank you, Tommy.

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got this photo from tommy barnes and a couple from bobby owen .bootle fc lancashire combination champions 1976

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ben seddon from gloucester rd played for tranmere , also played at wembley
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st monicas junior school 1965 , left on front row is joe james ex liverpool and southport and right front row is tony north who was well known in bootle joc
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My good mate and friend Bobby Owen remember the days has kids playing football together
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Thank you, Colly for your input.
Tony Gerry Bobby John Phil Onk all great street players
Great to see my great friend and mate Bobby on the pictures
Would like to make contact with Tommy

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i sent you a message bob
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Ray Mears is a member of the Bootle forum so you can contact him via here I'm sure he'll have lots of information for you.
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Eddie thank you
Ray Mears well I' am looking into this
Tommy forgot about him
I have started to look at him and others but need to talk to Tommy
People asking me to do a book
Ray Mears my Brother and Henry well well

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Great post-Eddie thank you
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Hi Bob,
Hope you are well.
Another who made it good was Alvin Martin. He played for West Ham for years and had a few games for England.
He was a few years behind me in Warwick Bolam and I remember my Dad picking him out and saying he would go far.
Cheers
Ken
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Thanks, Ken

Alvin Martin another bootle born footballer discarded by Everton but made it.
he began his playing days at Warwick bolden school and for the tailors' arms in bootle and for Litherland boys and junior league before joining west ham united as a professional in July 1976
Alvin was awarded England youth and B honors before winning an F A cup winners medal in 1980when he was 21and in july1981gained the first of 17 full international caps as well as helping his club to the second division title and runners up in the football league. Alvin martins trademark is loyalty and consistency in the game this could have been playing for the Taylors arms .he had to approach 500 appearances for Westham, and captained them to promotion from second division two.
his West ham career 1977 to 1991 24 goals

Regards Bobby
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Made it bigger Eddie Fantastic picture thanks mate
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