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Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:32 am

Hello
Looking for info about my paternal grandmother, a Doris Fairhurst nee Marshall. She married a Charles Fairhurst of 10 Garfield Street in 1942. I have their marriage cert which has her address as 4 Garfield Street which in the 1939 register has a Williams family living there and one of those residents is a witness to the marriage. But that is all I know about Doris, wondering if anyone might have info about where she came from as I have found no history of a Doris Marshall living the area in 1939 register, she must have come in from outside area but have drawn a blank doing her side of the family tree. Charles and Doris moved to the Yorkshire area after the war if that jogs a memory.
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby BOBHAMO » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:48 pm

Hi Lynn welcome
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this is the 1911 address of Garfield street
the williams family are there
but also no 39 the Marshall family might be related
have you Doris date of birth??
in 1938 the williams family are still there
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Garfield street is the middle top icon
now the strand shopping centre
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:41 am

HiThere

Thanks for that, I missed those Marshalls at 39 but after checking the 1911 census they appear to be too old to be parents of Doris as she was not born until 1921. I'll keep digging
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby BOBHAMO » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:55 am

George was born in leeds thought it might be related
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby ALAMO2008 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:29 am

My Maternal Gran lived at 3 Garfield St upon Marriage in 1910 to Albert Robinson
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:47 pm

I just checked the 1939 register and the Marshalls are gone so the mystery deepens. I have a feeling she may have lied about her age or an error on marriage certificate as I have lead on a Doris Marshall born in 1922 which some of the facts match what i know. Thanks to all for the answers.
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby BOBHAMO » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:17 pm

On the site we do have other Genies who are really good
hope they look in
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby ALAMO2008 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:18 pm

owlinaus wrote:I just checked the 1939 register and the Marshalls are gone so the mystery deepens. I have a feeling she may have lied about her age or an error on marriage certificate as I have lead on a Doris Marshall born in 1922 which some of the facts match what i know. Thanks to all for the answers.




In the course of my Ancestry Research in Recent Years I have been Very Surprised to find that Dates of Birth shown on the 1939 Register are not correct in many of my Relatives Records.
I have come to conclude not to take dates of birth in the Register as Gospel anymore.
It was not completed by the Householder but rather a visiting Enumerator who may have misheard or miss transcribed or the person lied about their age or genuinely didn't know the exact date.
Use it as a guide with a pinch of salt.
Even Marriage Certificates don't give the Correct Age necessarily,
I`m finding people could what ever age they chose and not to view the past with 21st Century accuracy eyes.
Be flexible.
Remember Records in the Past are not a True reflection of what happened and when,
Rather they are a Record of What People Said Happened.
I have 4 Relatives with Birth Certificates showing their Birth Dates up to 2 months
After they had been Baptized previously by the Priest.
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:11 pm

Hi Lynn,

On the marriage cert does it name Doris's father and his occupation?

I have found this

Name:
Doris Fairhurst
Death Age:
54
Birth Date:
27 Apr 1922
Registration Date:
Apr 1976
[May 1976]
[Jun 1976]
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:
Barnsley
Inferred County:
South Yorkshire
Volume:
3
Page:
0029

There are a few Doris Marshall birth registrations in the Yorkshire area 1922

Perhaps if we have a father's name that might help

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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:48 pm

Firstly sorry to everyone but not sure where it came from that my name is Lyn on here it is actually Mark.

Yes Jan I have found that Doris also and tend to believe that is her as they went back to Yorkshire straight after the war and stayed there. Her father was Philip Marshall occupation Police Guard. I thought it strange that no Marshalls were mentioned as witnesses on the marriage cert so maybe she moved to Bootle during the war or something.
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby BOBHAMO » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:14 am

Sorry about that Mark thought is was ow lyn australia
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:09 pm

Hi Mark,

Sorry for calling you Lynn, I was on the same lines as Bob.

I have found on the Electoral Register on ancestry for 1948 the following:-

121 Thornley Crescent Wentworth West Yorkshire

MARSHALL Philip

STOCKS Ronald

STOCKS Gwendoline

FAIRHURST Charles J

Fairhurst Doris

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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:19 pm

:D :D

Cracked it Mark!!

1939 Register
Name:
Gwendoline Marshall
[Gwendoline Stocks]
Gender:
Female
Marital status:
Single
Birth Date:
30 Mar 1924
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
121
Residence Place:
Dearne, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation:
Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number:
232
Sub Schedule Number:
4
Enumeration District:
KMQR
Registration district:
512 A/1
Household Members:
Name
Philip Marshall
Philip Marshall
This record is officially closed.
Gwendoline Marshall
Robert Marshall

Gwendoline and Doris Marshall's mother's maiden name was Stevens

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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:43 pm

:D

Name:
Doris Marshall
Registration Date:
Apr 1922
[May 1922]
[Jun 1922]
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:
Doncaster
Inferred County:
Yorkshire West Riding
Mother's Maiden Name:
Stevens
Volume Number:
9c
Page Number:
1511

Name:
Gwendoline Marshall
Registration Date:
Apr 1924
[May 1924]
[Jun 1924]
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:
Doncaster
Inferred County:
Yorkshire West Riding
Mother's Maiden Name:
Stevens
Volume Number:
9c
Page Number:
1438

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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:47 pm

:D :D

Name:
Emily Stevens
Registration Date:
Oct 1919
[Nov 1919]
[Dec 1919]
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:
Guisborough
Inferred County:
Yorkshire North Riding
Spouse:
Marshall
Volume Number:
9d
Page Number:
1371

spouse Philip Marshall

I think there were a brood of other children born Marshall to mother Stevens all in the Yorkshire area.

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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby Jan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:51 pm

Name:
Robert Marshall
Registration Date:
Jul 1925
[Aug 1925]
[Sep 1925]
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:
Doncaster
Inferred County:
Yorkshire West Riding
Mother's Maiden Name:
Stevens
Volume Number:
9c
Page Number:
1456
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:49 am

Hello Jan

Thankyou so much that is fantastic work and it all makes sense now, I'm so grateful for your assistance.
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby owlinaus » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:10 am

Jan

I wonder where Doris and her Mum are in 1939. I found them living together in 1945 in Dearne Thurnscoe with a Hilda Marshall
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Re: Fairhurst Family Garfield St in 1942

Postby BOBHAMO » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:23 am

Mark are Jan is the best Genie :D :D :D
glad you have the info
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