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My grandmother was born in 1913 in Liverpool . Her father was patrick Martin and her mother was Annie ( nee murnighan) . I was always told that she was Spanish but have found no trace of this . She married Henry parker in 1935 . My father Henry was born that year . We believe Clara also had a brother James Martin as he is listed on her marriage certificate as her father was deceased when she married . I am trying to find out why my father had always believed he had no family at all . Clara died in 1940 . She is buried in ford cemetery .
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Hi Parker welcome
there is a Patrick ,Annie , Martin
born county Monaghan
dock labourer living in bootle 1911
they have 4 siblings
mary 11
james 10
patrick 4
maggie 2
there was a vistor from ireland
Mick Monaghan with them in 1901
might be your family
1911,1938 Johnson street is missing from the directories this does happen
bobhamo
there is a Patrick ,Annie , Martin
born county Monaghan
dock labourer living in bootle 1911
they have 4 siblings
mary 11
james 10
patrick 4
maggie 2
there was a vistor from ireland
Mick Monaghan with them in 1901
might be your family
1911,1938 Johnson street is missing from the directories this does happen
bobhamo
bootle born altcar road
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BOBHAMO wrote:Hi Parker welcome
there is a Patrick ,Annie , Martin
born county Monaghan
dock labourer living in bootle 1911
they have 4 siblings
mary 11
james 10
patrick 4
maggie 2
there was a vistor from ireland
Mick Monaghan with them in 1901
might be your family
1911,1938 Johnson street is missing from the directories this does happen
bobhamo
Bobhamo has found the Correct Family !
Search of GRO online Birth Index shows :
Mary Elizabeth Martin registered Birth =Dec quarter 1899 in West Derby District Vol 8b page 355 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
James Joseph Martin . Sep 1901 West Derby Vol 8b page 340 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
Patrick Martin Dec 1907 West Derby Vol 8b page 357 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
Maggie Ann Martin Jun 1909 West Derby Vol 8b page 351 Mother's Maiden Name = Muraghan (No N after R)
Do you have the Birth Cert for Clara Martin ? showing her Mother's Maiden as Murnaghan ?
Because there were 23 Clara Martins born 1911 to 1915 None with Mother's Maiden Name Murnagham.
EDIT
Was a victim of listening to my own advice to people when searching the GRO birth index search last night.
I.E. don't enter a christian name even if you know it unless last resort and don't enter Mother's Maiden Name in case of miss type then after Exact match search on Mother's Maiden Name try phonetically sounding surnames.
Thanks to Jans Help,
Birth index found under CLARE Martin and Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
Bobhamo how kids shown on 1911 of the marriage and how many died ?
Is it Six ? with Two Died ?
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Birth registered as Clare Martin in the last Quarter 1913
Name
Clare Martin
Event Type
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1913
Registration District
West Derby
County
Lancashire
Event Place
West Derby, Lancashire, England
Mother's Maiden Name
Murnaghan
Volume
8B
Page
694
I think I have found Clara and Henry in the 1939 register it says march as her birthdate, but the image is not clear. I don't know the street name, again it's not clear, but number 70
Name:
Clara Parker
Gender:
Female
Marital Status:
Married
Birth Date:
22 Mar 1913
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
70.
Residence Place:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation:
Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number:
6
Sub Schedule Number:
2
Enumeration District:
NINV
Registration district:
455/5
Inferred Spouse:
Henry Parker
Jan
Name
Clare Martin
Event Type
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1913
Registration District
West Derby
County
Lancashire
Event Place
West Derby, Lancashire, England
Mother's Maiden Name
Murnaghan
Volume
8B
Page
694
I think I have found Clara and Henry in the 1939 register it says march as her birthdate, but the image is not clear. I don't know the street name, again it's not clear, but number 70
Name:
Clara Parker
Gender:
Female
Marital Status:
Married
Birth Date:
22 Mar 1913
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
70.
Residence Place:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation:
Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number:
6
Sub Schedule Number:
2
Enumeration District:
NINV
Registration district:
455/5
Inferred Spouse:
Henry Parker
Jan
Old genealogists never die......they just lose their census.
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Patrick and Annie married in the first quarter 1899
This is from Lancs BMD
MARTIN
Patrick
MURNIGHAN
Annie
Toxteth Park, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Liverpool
REG_TP/24/119
or the GRO reg
Name:
Patrick Martin
Registration Year:
1899
Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:
Toxteth Park
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
Lancashire
Volume:
8b
Page:
380
Records on Page:
Name
Ellen Clencey
Patrick Martin
Annie Murnighan
Patrick Walsh
Jan
This is from Lancs BMD
MARTIN
Patrick
MURNIGHAN
Annie
Toxteth Park, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Liverpool
REG_TP/24/119
or the GRO reg
Name:
Patrick Martin
Registration Year:
1899
Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:
Toxteth Park
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
Lancashire
Volume:
8b
Page:
380
Records on Page:
Name
Ellen Clencey
Patrick Martin
Annie Murnighan
Patrick Walsh
Jan
Old genealogists never die......they just lose their census.
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Found the missing two children that died pre 1911 Census and one after .
Bridget Theresa Martin : West Derby Dec 1902 Vol 8b page 359 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
She died aged 0 West Derby Mar 1903 Vol 8b page 254
Anne Agnes Martin : West Derby March 1904 Vol 8b page 381 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 2 : West Derby June 1906 Vol 8b page 271
Eva Martin : West Derby June 1917 Vol 8b page 524 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 1 : Wesr Derby Mar 1919 Vol 8b page 1201
Bridget Theresa Martin : West Derby Dec 1902 Vol 8b page 359 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
She died aged 0 West Derby Mar 1903 Vol 8b page 254
Anne Agnes Martin : West Derby March 1904 Vol 8b page 381 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 2 : West Derby June 1906 Vol 8b page 271
Eva Martin : West Derby June 1917 Vol 8b page 524 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 1 : Wesr Derby Mar 1919 Vol 8b page 1201