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BOBHAMO
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the two photos are ed davies i have some but cant find them , whats the name of the pub on the steps?? bobhamo
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Remind me Bob, where was Berry Street? Lost in the dim and distant. Ken
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Hi Bob
The Royal Standard was at 2a Berry St Michael Patrick Ealey
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Great photos Bob, old and new.

Ken, the road above the bridge is Millers Bridge.
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Cheers Joe.
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Thanks Joe, got it now. Cheers/Ken
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Great photos Bob, My uncle and aunty used to live in Canal St. knew the area well.

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Thanks for the photo's of Berry St. I lived just a few doors up from that pub, on the opposite side of the road. No. 13.
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Thanks Bob more great pics.

The number of times I walked up and down those steps to Berry St,
when John and I were courting kept me fit.

When we got married and moved away, on the flat.
No more keeping fit, all down hill from then on.. :wink:

Kathy.
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the two photos are ed davies i have some but cant find them , whats the name of the pub on the steps?? bobhamo
if iremember right the pub was known as mick healeys and the house pictured in shot 1 was famous in its own right the lady who lived there had a lodger who stole £100,000 back in the late 20s i think it was and she turned him in and got a £500 reward a fortune in its own right jim gibbs
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"Bootlejoy"
I was born on St Johnnie just under the tunnel from Berry St
Did you know the Bond family - George, Phillip and Patsy ?
I went to school with George and my sisters with Patsy.
We used to play footie and cricket on the waste ground across from Mick Ealey's pub
I remember Mr Keane's shop a little further up. There was old Mr Keane who sold out to a slightly younger couple also called Keane but no relation I think. I remember I bought my 1966 FA Cup Final ticket from somebody he knew and I picked it up in the shop. 7 pounds 10 for a ten bob ticket. However the blues won so money well spent
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[quote="Sonoma"]"Bootlejoy"
I was born on St Johnnie just under the tunnel from Berry St
Did you know the Bond family - George, Phillip and Patsy ?
I went to school with George and my sisters with Patsy.
We used to play footie and cricket on the waste ground across from Mick Ealey's pub
I remember Mr Keane's shop a little further up. There was old Mr Keane who sold out to a slightly younger couple also called Keane but no relation I think. I remember I bought my 1966 FA Cup Final ticket from somebody he knew and I picked it up in the shop. 7 pounds 10 for a ten bob ticket. However the blues won so money well spent[/quote
i also was born on st johns rd but further on past the subway but my grandparents lived just under the tunnel the GIBBS used to climb down the tunnel from millers bridge to st jonny next to the nursery school gives me the shivers now just thinking of it now, remember us winning the cup in 66 2-0 down and trebilcock scoring 2 and winning 3-2 i just joined the royal navy jim gibbs
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In 1953 I went to St. Winnies infants school. It was prefabs and, as far as I can remember, you accessed it by coming down the steps at Miller's Bridge, going under the tunnel and it was there on your left. A big wire fence surrounded it. My grandad would lean over the wall of the bridge and drop sweets to us in the playground below. Am I right in thinking that the bridge, steps and tunnel pictured in these photos is the right place?
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Graham@educato wrote:In 1953 I went to St. Winnies infants school. It was prefabs and, as far as I can remember, you accessed it by coming down the steps at Miller's Bridge, going under the tunnel and it was there on your left. A big wire fence surrounded it. My grandad would lean over the wall of the bridge and drop sweets to us in the playground below. Am I right in thinking that the bridge, steps and tunnel pictured in these photos is the right place?
that wasnt st winnies infants i cant remember its name though st winnies infants was just off derby rd behind the old st winnies church i went here in 1953 from there to juniors and then to the seniors in merton rd i left school in 1964 and now live in cornwall regards jim gibbs
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hi marylou,helen here,you said your aunt and uncle lived in canal st ,do they remember the mannings ,they were my rels but have lost touch over the years
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Gibbo, thanks for that. I'm fairly confident that there was a school there, I definitely have a strong memory of it. Strange I've always thought that it was St Winnies. I definitely went to St Winnies Juniors, a big old house on the corner of Trinity Rd and Pembroke Rd (?????). I then went to St Mary's in Crosby. Interesting that you're in Cornwall, we live on the north coast of Devon, 15 miles from the cornish border. I wonder what the school was that I went to under Miller's Bridge ?
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Graham@educato wrote:Gibbo, thanks for that. I'm fairly confident that there was a school there, I definitely have a strong memory of it. Strange I've always thought that it was St Winnies. I definitely went to St Winnies Juniors, a big old house on the corner of Trinity Rd and Pembroke Rd (?????). I then went to St Mary's in Crosby. Interesting that you're in Cornwall, we live on the north coast of Devon, 15 miles from the cornish border. I wonder what the school was that I went to under Miller's Bridge ?
there was a school there and i think it was prefabs but i cant remember the name someone will post the name of it shortly. me and my mate dennis gould used to climb up and down the wall onto millers bridge, frightens me to death just thinking about it now i went to the junior school it was on the corner of trinity and merton i left there in59/60 and went to st winnies senior although we lived in netherton by then regards jim
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Sonoma wrote:"Bootlejoy"
I was born on St Johnnie just under the tunnel from Berry St
Did you know the Bond family - George, Phillip and Patsy ?
I went to school with George and my sisters with Patsy.
We used to play footie and cricket on the waste ground across from Mick Ealey's pub
I remember Mr Keane's shop a little further up. There was old Mr Keane who sold out to a slightly younger couple also called Keane but no relation I think. I remember I bought my 1966 FA Cup Final ticket from somebody he knew and I picked it up in the shop. 7 pounds 10 for a ten bob ticket. However the blues won so money well spent
Hi gibbo1991, I remember the Bond family, one of the boys was a good footballer I think. ?
I worked with Patsy in Lewis's clothing factory litherland.

Kathy.
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gibbo1991 wrote:
Graham@educato wrote:Gibbo, thanks for that. I'm fairly confident that there was a school there, I definitely have a strong memory of it. Strange I've always thought that it was St Winnies. I definitely went to St Winnies Juniors, a big old house on the corner of Trinity Rd and Pembroke Rd (?????). I then went to St Mary's in Crosby. Interesting that you're in Cornwall, we live on the north coast of Devon, 15 miles from the cornish border. I wonder what the school was that I went to under Miller's Bridge ?
there was a school there and i think it was prefabs but i cant remember the name someone will post the name of it shortly. me and my mate dennis gould used to climb up and down the wall onto millers bridge, frightens me to death just thinking about it now i went to the junior school it was on the corner of trinity and merton i left there in59/60 and went to st winnies senior although we lived in netherton by then regards jim
I went to St Johns infants, and as far as i remember, it was St Winnies infants, we called it the huts, had a few mates who went to it, St Winnies juniors was on Merton Rd, this was 1957 by the way.
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I REMEMBER PLAYING FOR tHE WINNIES WITH GEORGE BOND AND HE WAS A TRICKY PLAYER
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From a 1907 map of Bootle, Berry St ran up to Millers Bridge, and became St Johns Rd the other side. Looks like Berry St now stops at a car park, and Bridge St runs up to the bridge instead.

Also on the 1907 map, there's a school in St Johns Rd right next to St Johns Church. There is no church on my modern map, but a road called Lipton Close looks like it joins St Johns Rd opposite where the church would have stood?
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gazV8uk wrote:From a 1907 map of Bootle, Berry St ran up to Millers Bridge, and became St Johns Rd the other side. Looks like Berry St now stops at a car park, and Bridge St runs up to the bridge instead.

Also on the 1907 map, there's a school in St Johns Rd right next to St Johns Church. There is no church on my modern map, but a road called Lipton Close looks like it joins St Johns Rd opposite where the church would have stood?
there were two schools on st johns rd one next to the tunnel that separated it from berry st and one futher along on the opposite side of the road on the corner of a short st that joined brasenose rd and st jonnies near (rooneys) shop this could be the only plce a church could have stood. st richards church was built in the early 60s on st johns rd but that was on the on the liverpool side of st jonnie jim gibbs
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Would the short road have been called Saint Johns Terrace, as the church was sited there with a school next to it?
Only other schools marked on St Johns Rd in 1907 were next to St Alexanders RC Church and next to St Pauls Church. Can't see one near the bridge so would it have been built after 1907?
St Winifreds school was in Church View, where my ancestors lived.
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THE OLD ST,WINNIES CHURCH WAS DEMOLISHED AND A NEW ONE WAS REBUILT ON THE CORNER OF ORIEL/MERTON ROAD
HENRY BORN FLORIDA STREET OFF STRAND ROAD
Jan
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:D

I think the school would have been St Johns.

http://liverpool-schools.co.uk/html/st_jo_-_st_w.html

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fazerman
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Jan wrote::D

I think the school would have been St Johns.

http://liverpool-schools.co.uk/html/st_jo_-_st_w.html

Jan
It was, i went there from 1956 - 1959
Charlie35
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I went to St winnies Juniors on the corner of Pembroke,and Merton Rd. it was a big old house, just up the road from there on the oppisite side was the County Hall which was bombed juring the blitz.From there i went to Winnies seniors it was called the art centre,corner of Balliol and Stanly rd, after 11 or 12 years of age we were transfered to St James, in Marsh Lane.left school 1950.
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There was an infants school near the bridge in St John's Road. I went to school there in the 1950's. As far as I am aware, it was just called St Winnies infants. It was made up of prefab huts. Would anyone remember the Darcy sisters of Berry St? Teresa and Mary Darcy. They went to St. Winnies Juniors with me in the 1950's. Rosie
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I went to St Winnies infants just after the 2nd ww.It was over the road at the top of chapel st,but the address ould have been Church view.I started in at the same time i think,as Phil Bond until we were fifteen.Still see Phil now and again in wetherspoons by the Triad,real nice guy.Jim Moorcroft from Kirk St
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Sonoma
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The school was part of St Winefrides infants. I went there as I lived almost opposite on SJR.
Head teacher was Mrs O'Brien and the other teacher was Mrs O'Neill. Only 2 classes then we went up to the Jr Boys on Merton Road/Pembroke Rd
That was 1951/2
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Hi Sonoma, I went to St Winnies infants around the same time as you, the Gibb's from sjr were my g/parents. Do you remember Eddy Gordon,I went to the infants, juniors, and seniors with him, then I believe he went to Aus. Richie.
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Sonoma
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I do remember the Gibbs family but no individuals by name. There was one lad who was in a pipe band I think. He would be in his 70s now
at least. They lived about 6 houses down from us
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Hi Sonoma, the Gibbs's lived in 34 SJR the piper was my uncle Johnnie Gibbs. My name is Richie Christensen I was born 1945 so I must have been in St Winnies huts at the same time as you. If I remember right the Gordons must have lived almost opposite you and Eddie was the same age as me. Richie.
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Sonoma
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Yes I remember Johnny
The Gordons live at #19 I think and we were at #20 . Name is Brian Smith
I remember Robbie and Eddie Gordon and their sisters . Mrs Gordon was a councillor. Their dad went to sea and I believe died and was buried at sea. I think Eddie went to NZ. I was born in 1946 so was a year behind you. I rember the caretaker at the huts. He used to carry a coal bucket and make a clicking rhythm with the handle and all the kids used to join in the parade behind him.
When I was there I used to pull the dirty-trouser duty. I remember having to escort a couple of lads home who had soiled themselves. Not sure why I was selected for the dubious honour
I remember in 1951 when King George died and Mrs O'Brien came in the class and said it was because we were talking too much. I felt guilty about being a regicide for a long time after - being only 5 or 6 at the time
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Chriso
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:D :D :D Yes Happy days. You must have lived close to Richie Crighton or Dickie Mint as we used to call him, ha, ha.
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Sonoma
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Yes two doors down from Dickie, Danny and Jeanie.
Dickie got the blame for everything that happened in the neighbourhood but was really a nice kid
Also the Newtons (Atwells) across the street who using the common phrase now, were known to the police
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