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Postby Parker1 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:14 pm

I am looking for any family or anyone with information about my grandmother Clara Martin . She lived at 22 Johnson street. My father was an only child and have little information about her or her family .
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Re: Grandmother

Postby lily8 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:14 am

Can you give us a time frame please?
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Re: Grandmother

Postby Parker1 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:56 am

My grandmother was born in 1913 in Liverpool . Her father was patrick Martin and her mother was Annie ( nee murnighan) . I was always told that she was Spanish but have found no trace of this . She married Henry parker in 1935 . My father Henry was born that year . We believe Clara also had a brother James Martin as he is listed on her marriage certificate as her father was deceased when she married . I am trying to find out why my father had always believed he had no family at all . Clara died in 1940 . She is buried in ford cemetery .
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Re: Grandmother

Postby BOBHAMO » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:16 am

Hi Parker welcome :lol: :lol:
there is a Patrick ,Annie , Martin
born county Monaghan
dock labourer living in bootle 1911
they have 4 siblings
mary 11
james 10
patrick 4
maggie 2

there was a vistor from ireland
Mick Monaghan with them in 1901
might be your family
1911,1938 Johnson street is missing from the directories this does happen
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Re: Grandmother

Postby ALAMO2008 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:29 pm

BOBHAMO wrote:Hi Parker welcome :lol: :lol:
there is a Patrick ,Annie , Martin
born county Monaghan
dock labourer living in bootle 1911
they have 4 siblings
mary 11
james 10
patrick 4
maggie 2

there was a vistor from ireland
Mick Monaghan with them in 1901
might be your family
1911,1938 Johnson street is missing from the directories this does happen
bobhamo




Bobhamo has found the Correct Family !

Search of GRO online Birth Index shows :

Mary Elizabeth Martin registered Birth =Dec quarter 1899 in West Derby District Vol 8b page 355 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan

James Joseph Martin . Sep 1901 West Derby Vol 8b page 340 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan

Patrick Martin Dec 1907 West Derby Vol 8b page 357 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan

Maggie Ann Martin Jun 1909 West Derby Vol 8b page 351 Mother's Maiden Name = Muraghan (No N after R)

Do you have the Birth Cert for Clara Martin ? showing her Mother's Maiden as Murnaghan ?
Because there were 23 Clara Martins born 1911 to 1915 None with Mother's Maiden Name Murnagham.

EDIT
Was a victim of listening to my own advice to people when searching the GRO birth index search last night.
I.E. don't enter a christian name even if you know it unless last resort and don't enter Mother's Maiden Name in case of miss type then after Exact match search on Mother's Maiden Name try phonetically sounding surnames.
Thanks to Jans Help,

Birth index found under CLARE Martin and Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan






Bobhamo how kids shown on 1911 of the marriage and how many died ?
Is it Six ? with Two Died ?
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Re: Grandmother

Postby Jan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:03 pm

Birth registered as Clare Martin in the last Quarter 1913

Name
Clare Martin
Event Type
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1913
Registration District
West Derby
County
Lancashire
Event Place
West Derby, Lancashire, England
Mother's Maiden Name
Murnaghan
Volume
8B
Page
694

I think I have found Clara and Henry in the 1939 register it says march as her birthdate, but the image is not clear. I don't know the street name, again it's not clear, but number 70

Name:
Clara Parker
Gender:
Female
Marital Status:
Married
Birth Date:
22 Mar 1913
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
70.
Residence Place:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation:
Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number:
6
Sub Schedule Number:
2
Enumeration District:
NINV
Registration district:
455/5
Inferred Spouse:
Henry Parker

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Re: Grandmother

Postby Jan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:25 pm

I have found the address for Clara and Henry, 70 Friar Street.

The same address on her burial at ford.

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Re: Grandmother

Postby Jan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:28 am

Patrick and Annie married in the first quarter 1899

This is from Lancs BMD

MARTIN
Patrick
MURNIGHAN
Annie
Toxteth Park, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Liverpool
REG_TP/24/119

or the GRO reg
Name:
Patrick Martin
Registration Year:
1899
Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:
Toxteth Park
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
Lancashire
Volume:
8b
Page:
380
Records on Page:
Name
Ellen Clencey
Patrick Martin
Annie Murnighan
Patrick Walsh

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Re: Grandmother

Postby ALAMO2008 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:04 pm

Found the missing two children that died pre 1911 Census and one after .

Bridget Theresa Martin : West Derby Dec 1902 Vol 8b page 359 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
She died aged 0 West Derby Mar 1903 Vol 8b page 254

Anne Agnes Martin : West Derby March 1904 Vol 8b page 381 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 2 : West Derby June 1906 Vol 8b page 271


Eva Martin : West Derby June 1917 Vol 8b page 524 Mother's Maiden Name = Murnaghan
she died aged 1 : Wesr Derby Mar 1919 Vol 8b page 1201
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Re: Grandmother

Postby BOBHAMO » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:03 pm

W ell done Alan and Jan :D :D
some great info for Parker
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Re: Grandmother

Postby Parker1 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:58 pm

If there is any family members out there that we could speak too we would appreciate it . Or anyone who knew of the family .
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