Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

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Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:08 pm

Private William Roberts #3657611 was a paratrooper in WW2 & was in the Carrier Platoon in the 2/4 South Lancs Reg.
His DOB was 3rd April 1917.

He was my Mother's older brother (my Uncle). RIP both of them.

I'd appreciate any advice in helping me trace his war record as my Mother had mentioned he was dropped into Caen (France) the night before the D-Day landings & once actually captured a German 'Pay-Master'.

This clip got me confused as it doesn't mention the 2/4 South Lancs Reg ?

Tactical drop: British Paratroopers’ drop to D-Day victory - News stories - GOV.UK

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:11 pm

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Jan » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:42 pm

Hi Paul,

You would have to contact the MOD for the records, you will need to prove Kinship and have birth and death certs, I am not sure what they charge now for the records, it was £30, and it could take up to six months to get them sent to you.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... ce-records

Best of luck.

Jan
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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:57 am

Hi Jan...........Thanks for the prompt advice..........just ordered the Death Cert..........due 16th December.

A thousand mile journey starts with a single step ...!! (or something like that). :-)

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby WatsonTommy » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:03 am

paul.. ask the british legion they will put you right
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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:25 pm

Hi Tommy...........Thanks for advice............presently I've posted off my Uncle's death cert & sent it off to the Army with the appropriate fee. (Thanks Jan too).

They've acknowledged receipt of same but have reminded me it could take 6 months.

Watch this space :-)

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:59 pm

Just an (eventual) update (??)……...in 2017,I did indeed receive my favourite Uncle's military record. (see enclosed pics), the stand-out date being; "Deplaned to NW Europe on 5/6/44"...….the night before 'D-Day'.

Can't imagine his thoughts as he prepared to parachute in (with a bicycle) !!.

Anyway, I was delighted & proud to see he got promoted to Sergeant just one month later & chuckled to see he got a right royal rollicking for letting a POW escape in 1945. (Although, he was a compassionate man)

Then in November last, I visited ;

http://www.lancashireinfantrymuseum.org.uk

It's FREE ….just get the 'X2' bus to Preston then the #6 bus to the barracks...…….it's 'Jam-packed' with stuff...……..well worth a visit.

During my visit, I noticed some photos & information regarding "2/4 Lancs Regiment" during 'D-Day', …...Bill's regiment, with incredible timing, one of the volunteers from the Museum asked me; "Need any help Sir ?".

He was obviously a retired military man, dapper, red'g tie, well spoken in clipped terms. So I asked for more information & explained about my Uncle & that he had indeed landed the night before.

I'd been to my cousin's funeral that day before & inside my jacket pocket, & by pure chance, I had Charlie Wallace's letter addressed to my Uncle with me,as his brothers (my other cousins) would be interested.

I produced the letter as if to illustrate my credentials. (!!), he read the address; "Bill Roberts, Carrier Platoon, 2/4 redg, Cheltenham"...…….his eyebrows raised & he asked me two quick questions;

"Did he come back alive ?" & after I answered 'Yes'.....his promptly asked; "Was he wounded ?"...….I replied 'No'.

He then informed me that 'The Carrier Platoon' was the elite squad & that he will have seen "Heavy Heavy Action"...……..he then further informed me of where my Uncle would have been involved...….another 'Big One' was a battle in 'BURE' connected with the 'Battle of the Bulge"...….then into the Rhine...…...then out to the Baltic to meet Russian troops.

I was in a trance & struggled to take it all in.

I know he is featured on the famous "World at War" series...Episode 'Nemisis'……...he appears for a single second, sitting on an Allied tank as they met up with the advancing Russians...…….he later said it was 'stage managed' for the cameras.

It was when I got home that I finally decided to look for 'Charlie Wallace'. (!!)

Happy New Year Y'all.

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby jimmyocx3 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:26 pm

Hi, you must be extremley proud of him, is he amongst this group of airborne soldiers in this clip starting at 5.26
https://youtu.be/8qzBLRXjcw4?t=326
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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby Paul McCabe » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:23 pm

Hi Jimmyocx3...…….Thanks for the 'You Tube' clip.....what a find.

Yep....he's there, I've not seen it for a long time….BUT....watch carefully to exactly 05mins & 43sec.... Bill Roberts appears.….in the background..... but directly central in the cameras frame......he even makes eye contact with the cameraman !.

I remember my Mother (Rose, his sister) freeze framing the VCR & taking a photo of him on the TV when the "World at War" series first aired...!!...Ha Ha.

Cheers & ATB

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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby jimmyocx3 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:51 pm

Paul McCabe wrote:Hi Jimmyocx3...…….Thanks for the 'You Tube' clip.....what a find.

Yep....he's there, I've not seen it for a long time….BUT....watch carefully to exactly 05mins & 43sec.... Bill Roberts appears.….in the background..... but directly central in the cameras frame......he even makes eye contact with the cameraman !.

I remember my Mother (Rose, his sister) freeze framing the VCR & taking a photo of him on the TV when the "World at War" series first aired...!!...Ha Ha.

Cheers & ATB

P


Hi Paul, a fantastic piece of family history, thank you for sharing with us.
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Re: Paratrooper Pte William Roberts #3657611 (WW2)

Postby lynne99 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:22 pm

Brilliant story. I do like it when things work out well. Keep up the searches.
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