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joansgirl
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Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:17 pm

LILLY 8 YOUR A STAR WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PHOTO FOR AGES THANK YOU :d :d : omg !! lilly that is my grandad richard hannah dob is correct its great to see a photo of him :D :D :D and yes lilly your right rachel hannah IS A RELATIVE she is my mothers sister and her son is john conteh from boxing fame lol sadly aunty rache lpassed away in 2011 so mum is the only living family member now mum will be so shocked when she sees this thank you so much lilly


thank you ever so much mystery solved :D

joansgirl xxxxx
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joansgirl
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Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:27 pm

lilly richards parents where ( mother was maria swanson and his father was william hannah )

and im guessing your right thommo as mum said he was from the welsh streets and his family where from the rhonda wales ???

still cant find bala st though or any record of it :(
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joansgirl
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Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:33 pm

didnt know he was in the merchant navy i always thought he was a cobbler :( you learn something new everyday so where abouts where the welsh streets in bootle ???
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Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:45 pm

Hi Joansgirl

Click on the link below it shows Bala St.

Middle left on the map.
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... z/ac79.htm
Great work Ladies. :D
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:10 am

joansgirl wrote:LILLY 8 YOUR A STAR WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PHOTO FOR AGES THANK YOU :d :d : omg !! lilly that is my grandad richard hannah dob is correct its great to see a photo of him :D :D :D and yes lilly your right rachel hannah IS A RELATIVE she is my mothers sister and her son is john conteh from boxing fame lol sadly aunty rache lpassed away in 2011 so mum is the only living family member now mum will be so shocked when she sees this thank you so much lilly


thank you ever so much mystery solved :D

joansgirl xxxxx
Hiya Joansgirl (by the way I am also a Joans girl too) I am chuffed to little mint balls that we have found a photo and I hope your mum really enjoys it. As always we (genies) are only to happy to help where we can.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:45 am

Wonderful result wombats!! and guess what Joan aside from being Thommo's sister I'm also Joan's sister!!
Dad named her after Joan Regan...

T.S :D
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:13 am

lily8 wrote:This is likely the Marriage of Richard in 1896 note the name is Swanton that maybe an error.


Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)

Hannah William W.Derby 8b 683
Rooney John W. Derby 8b 683
Swanton Mary W. Derby 8b 683
Wilter Ellen W. Derby 8b 683
Witter Ellen W. Derby 8b 683
Hi I am not sure if you want us to try and follow the families back if so a copy of the above marriage cert would be a great start as we need to definitely know if the name is Swanton or Swanson and it will give both fathers names and occupations.
Lily
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:06 pm

Hi glossy :) we are definitely on the right track :)
I have more info on granddad mother Mary Swanson address 63 Conway st 2 children I died unsure of age apparently she was a widow
I see where I get my middle name after my aunty Mary :) and my great great grandmother :)

Joansgirl xxx
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:58 pm

Hi everyone just to let you know I'm now in touch with my cousin Frank conteh the eldest son of Rachel Hannah who has given me my whole family tree dating back to 1700s whoop just wanted to say thank you each and everyone for your help with my tree Lilly. When you said your a Joans girl. !!! too did you mean st joans school girl if so join my group :)
If I could jump into this computer I would give you all a huge hug its Been a very rewarding experience learning about my family some shocks on the way too might I add but hank you all for all your HELP Xxx. Mmmmwahhhh :#
Angela joansgirl xxxx
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Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:45 am

Really pleased for you Angela and we are always happy to help.

BTW I am a Joans girl as my mum was a Joan :D
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Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:31 am

Great news Angela about your family tree, so far back too!!
Just smashing.
T.S :D
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Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:32 pm

hello lilly :) :) :) missed you :) love the new look but its confusing to get around but il work it out \;0 thanks lilly hope your ok as ive not been on here for a while so thought id drop by and say hello

just updating i now have my cousin frank conteh helping me with my searches weve swapped information weve both collected he too was surprised to see a photo of our grandfather :) we have also have found a relative from grandads side in ireland :) (Hannah) and a cousin in canada (perrins ) and our searches now go as far back as 1700s wow :0 and i also have other family lines too :)
when i started i didnt think id ever find out this much information xxxxxx
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joansgirl
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Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:39 pm

i found out nans family lived in bostock street bootle and her mum lived in the next street
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Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:35 am

Hi Angela nice to hear from you :D lovely that you and your cousin are working together on the family tree and finding so much just great. If you need any further help we are always here.

Cheers Ang
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Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:29 pm

OMG !!!! I found reading this so moving, its amazing when you know what your looking for that you can find it, very happy that you found your info :) the members on this site are so caring and help full , god bless you all x
joansgirl
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Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:30 pm

Hi girls one more puzzle to finish to my research. My aunty Mary mum's sister.

I spoke to mum she said the news headlines about Marys death was in the newspapers.
The daily mirror

Headline was. Rock and roll girl goes to the lines with cliff Richard in her ears

I'm not having any luck finding this can anyone help plz

Joansgirl x
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joansgirl
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Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:19 am

hi guys :)
some information ive found can anyone enlighten me as to where aber street was
and also any info on any of the names of anybody living there


SWANTON Richard.......head.....Married ...........aged....42.....1849.....Dock Labourer..... Ireland

Ellen..............................wife.....Married............aged.....38.....1853.....died.....1910.....aged 51.....Shropshire

Richard ........................ son......Single................ aged....15.....1876................................................Liverpool

Nathaniel......................son......Single.................aged.....7......1884.................................................Liverpool

Ellen..............................daughter....Single..........aged.....5......1886..............................................Liverpool

Ursula............................daughter....Single..........aged....3. ....1888....died 1892.

HURLEY Martin

FITZMORS Thos

MURPHY John

Lodgers all seaman and all from Ireland

According to the 1901 Census.

Resided 38 Aber Street Bootle:

Richard………………head…………..aged…………46

Ellen………………….wife…………….aged…………44……

Nathaniel……………son…………….aged………….17

John…………………..son……………aged…………..10

William…………………son……………aged………….07

Patrick Quigley...........lodger.....aged..........17
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Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:42 am

Hi Joansgirl Aber street was of irlam road changed to Anglsey street 1915

its on the centre of the map
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the backs of Aber and Bala street
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Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:16 am

Great Bob well done :D
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:57 pm

awww thank you bob :) it looks like according to my research all the families practically lived around the corner from each other alot easier to find hahaha


hi lilly :) remember the photo of grandad it turns out its my great grandfather richard hannah address was 61 angelsey street bootle you mentioned about service records what where they ? it says fireman on the photo was he a fireman mum seems to think it was to do with trains as or ships ? how would i get that info

and heres another mystery for you lilly essage from my cousin frank ////////// Angie, do you know anything of great grandpa William Hannah family/brother/s from Scotland Road area? William fell into Sandon dock and drowned, he was 40 years old at the time
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joansgirl
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:04 pm

think my nanna lillian lived in audely street ive heard mum and uncle gerard mention that street my nan played the piano in toulins was that in the area ?
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Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:00 pm

lily8 wrote:Hi I hope this is your grandad seems to fit as to dob etc. On further looking I am 99% sure it is yourGt Grandad, there are several records for his voyages usually between Liverpool and East Coast USA.

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Lilly Can you get me some info on the records you mentions I'd possible would be interesting to see where he visited during his career please.
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Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:46 am

Hi Ang the records such as they are, are not very detailed I have pieced together from arrival and departure records, there were at that time 2 Richard Hannahs at sea I from Manchester and the other your rellie. It would seem that he first went to sea at 15 or so sailing as an assistant steward on the Empress of Ireland and the Lake Champlain, later voyages he seemed to primarily travel to the USA as a fireman which in those days was a brutal and hard job. will see if I can find a vid to show life as a marine fireman, hope this helps will also have a look for any news reports on the lady, Cheers Lils

Later:::::: this article explains the life of a Fireman/Stoker

http://www.barrymerchantseamen.org.uk/a ... etrim.html

Further::::: I believe his first ship was the Empress of Ireland (as above) he sailed on her before her sinking with tremendous loss of life I had a rellie who lost his life on the Empress, her is a vid all parts same page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lT2dlnKdU
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Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:26 pm

hi lilly thank you for the links very much appreciated :)

it was really hard life yeah :( i watched the videos with interest and showed a few family too sorry to hear you lost a relative lily :(
im fiding out more and more about the family ... thank you again lily :)
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Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:42 am

I have Hannah in my family, Jan and others...forgive I have forgotten names, helped me find my family. My grandads sister Hannah Latham, married Bobby Hunt, then she married David Hannah (she became Hannah Hannah) They went to New York and had a daughter named Hannah! I believe the daughter must have died as I remember my mum Rachel Latham-Graham telling me that her Auntie had paid a visit from America and wanted to take mum back with her because she didn't have any children. Of course my grandma wouldn't let her go.
Granddad John Latham, grandma Margaret Campbell from Co. Antrim. They lived in ..Canal street or Berry Street.
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Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:48 am

I have just looked at other posts and notice Lily8! It was Lily that gave me lots of info, along with Jan and someone else...sorry that I have forgotten names

Sheila, From Fernhill Road.
joansgirl
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:40 pm

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this is my uncle tOMMY hannah he lived in 43 Netherton Road , Bootle and also 61a peel road can anybody give me any information about the uniform please or any army details ie rank and service this was taken around 1956 or there abouts unfortunately i dont know any names except that there possibly from bootle
HANNAH thomas December 1934 bootle 8b508



also sheila i have this that i got from lilly8 when i was researching my hannah family

HANNAH jane September 1921 birkenhead green 8a813
HANNAH norman June 1926 burnley 8e317
HANNAH nancy December 1927 liverpool 8b359
HANNAH frances September 1931 8E+170 8E+170 8E+170
maybe your relatives :D
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lily8
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Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:15 am

Hi again :D sorry I cant identify any regiment from the photo but I would think he was probably doing his national service all records from 1939 or so are held by the Ministry of defence and will not be released any time soon. Next of kin can apply for a fee for access only if the service person had died and a death cert must be provided.
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Looking at the cap badge of the lad in the middle it could be Royal Army Service Corps. I hope this helps you. :wink:
Cheers Joe.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:32 pm

hi lilly :) GREAT TO HERE FROM YOU hope your ok <3 ive been a busy nanny the past few years 2 more new arrivals so doing my geneology is sort of half put on hold LOL well lilly about the photo ...... ive found out tom was in the liverpool kings reg i just want to say :) thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the help ive recieved from you and all the BTPP TEAM and members ive got photos now of aunty mary and aunt lillian who by the way was a printer for the bootle times unfortunately and sadly i never got to meet lillian but her and mum and mary and aunt rachel look so much alike i will have to put some pics up so you can see ....... ohhh and joe thanks for the heads up :D

angie joansgirl
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:42 am

Hi Angie lovely to hear your good news and I am so jealous re grandchildren we only have one and no likelihood of any more :( but never mind eh? it was a pleasure to be of help and I am so glad you found it all exciting, fond regards
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Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:02 pm

Hi everyone just logged in to say
My beautiful mum JOAN MAHER, BROWN, NEE HANNAH sadly passed away on the 28th October 2020😢😢

we where lucky because we got to spend some time with her and be with her during her final hours ⌚

and I know some people didn't get to do that because of covid 19 rules and regs and that must have been so hard 😭

So I just want to say thank you to everyone for all the help I received with my family tree👨‍👩‍👦 getting information and photos was tremendous🙏 thanks

I've posted a photo this was taken in the Beaconsfield club at the are you from bootle reunion we attended in March this year she had a brilliant night.

Time to put the ghosts to rest now mums

If anyone has any information about how I get ashes of an ex merchant navy man. out to sea would be good he spent his life at sea 🌊 or anyone with a boat 🛥️
so would be nice to do something like that



I hope I do get to write mums book fingers crossed thanks joans girl xx

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Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:13 am

https://www.merseyferries.co.uk/boat-hi ... atterings/
this might help Joansgirl
sorry for your loss
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Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:23 am

Thanks for the heads up, Bob. Great service provided Mersey ferries, I bet many people don't know about it.
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Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:24 pm

Thank you Bob I will be looking into arranging something.... ❤️. With the family when things are safe to do so........ And thank you for your reply... Angie Joan's girl
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