pre war Bootle map

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emma
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I've scanned a portion of my old pre-war map of Liverpool showing part of Bootle before the Luftwaffe (and developers :) ) had a go. Interesting to see the outline of how Derby park ponds etc were.


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Thanks Emma.
How much of the Bootle area does your map show?
Born in Bootle 1960 lived on Bailey Drive then the old roan.
emma
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It is of all Liverpool and covers most of Bootle at that time - I only scanned a portion as it would have been too big. What area are you interested in?
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nice to see the map in colour emme , if any of are bootle bucks need to buy 1900 ordinance maps the best are the godfrey edition , they cover all liverpool , bootle , crosby , seaforth antree, i have about 20 , they cost about £2 .50 ,and can be bought in most book shops in town , these show all streets m parks , factories there are 3 on bootle , they are worth buying, bobhamo
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rivermersey
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Hi Emma
Bailey drive area if it's on the map please.
Thanks
Born in Bootle 1960 lived on Bailey Drive then the old roan.
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Hi Emma

Thanks for your map scan, interesting to see the number of churches in Bootle at that time. Like other posters I would also appreciate a view of Seaforth and Litherland.

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Thanks for posting that Emma.

Amzing to see where Southport Road and Brewster Street finished so far apart before they became joined up later.

Can also spot good old Romeo Street in the bottom right just to the left of Bankhall Station.

Just to the right of Marsh Lane Station, we can see Boston Street - what were the names of those two streets that come down from it (can't read them on the screen) - these are just in the vicinity of where my flat in Jersey Close was (late 70s/early 80s).

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BOBHAMO wrote:nice to see the map in colour emme , if any of are bootle bucks need to buy 1900 ordinance maps the best are the godfrey bootle , they are worth buying, bobhamo
Yes, I agree Bob, the Old Ordinance Survey Maps are a great resource, I have quite a few myself and not just of Liverpool. I use them a lot in my family history research.
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Here's another portion of map - Peter asked for Southport Road? Also, Rivermersey requested Bailey Dr - sorry,this is as far as the map goes in Orrell - the map does not have a date but I am guessing it's the late 20s early 30s - the "Kingsway"Tunnel is on there and that was underway in late 20s and opened 1933. I think the area around Bailey Dr was still being built then and there has already been a old photo put on site of the area in 1933 and it looks like it was pretty new then. I lived in Bailey Dr area 1944-1957.
My old map was published by Bartholomews and printed on linen and sold for 3/6d - probably quite expensive for the time.
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I think Dave was asking for Seaforth? Well afraid this is as far as map goes down that end.
And Bern, can you see those streets now? It's as clear as I could reproduce it. Running off Boston are Albany and Concord Sts

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Thanks Emma

Can't quite make out the wording but you've answered the question for me though. :D

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Thanks for that,Emma.For years I have been trying to find a Bootle map that showed my home street there(Tudno St off Church St opposite Alexandra Dock.It,along with Summer Seat, Tudor St,and most of Campbell St were demolished in Bootle's "renewal" phase after surviving the bombing of WW2 and all. :D .
Lived in Tudno St Bootle,now in Newcastle,Oz
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Hi Jim
pleased the map helped in some small way - Tudno is that the small street than ran between Campbell and Church Sts?
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Jim, I have to admit I hadn't heard of your street before but I looked in my Edwardian A-Z Directory and found it and have scanned portion for you

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Thank you again,Emma you are spot on with location. :D
Lived in Tudno St Bootle,now in Newcastle,Oz
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Hi Emma

Your dating of the map late 1920s is a good estimate a couple of clues I can offer. Walton Hospital site is still identified as the West Derby Union, Workhouse, the workhouse system was abolished April 1930. The Carlton Cinema Orrell Park, site is Victoria Park, cinema was opened Sept 1930.

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Dear Emma, finally, a map of Tudno Street and surrounding area. It means an awful lot to be able to look at the map, brings back a whole lot of very good memories of my youth in good old Bootle.Many thanks from Toronto Canada.-----Alfie.
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Would Flint Street, Bootle, be in any areas of the maps that have been loaded to the site.

My mother was born at Flint Street in 1921.

Would love to see roughly the area she was born in.

Many thanks.

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Barby

The last map look for grid No 8 and move in 3 squares, the streets were known as the Welsh Streets, they are angled at approx 45 degrees Flint St is the third one to the right.

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hi Emma, love the photo you have there, it's mount Cook isn't it? My brother lives in NZ, he's down in Invercargill. I've been twice to stay with him and loved it over there.

How do you get the photo up there? I can see any access to the avators either.
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Hi Carol
no, that's Mitre Peak reflected in Milford Sound. You will find facility for an Avatar if you go to your "profile" page and scroll down to the end. But take a look at the instructions "How to Post photos on our Bootle Forum" first at the top of this forum.
You wouldn't like it down here just now as it is very cold as we head into winter brrrrr :)
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Dave,
Thanks will take a look, great to be able to have these maps to see where our family lived.

Emma, Yes, it will be VERY cold down there at the moment, don't envy you at all, was pretty cold here in Christchurch yesterday too.
Sun shining at the moment so should be a great day.

Have a good one everyone.

Take care.
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emma wrote:Hi Carol no, that's Mitre Peak reflected in Milford Sound. You will find facility for an Avatar if you go to your "profile" page and scroll down to the end. But take a look at the instructions "How to Post photos on our Bootle Forum" first at the top of this forum.
You wouldn't like it down here just now as it is very cold as we head into winter brrrrr :)
Hi Emma, of course it's Mitre Peak, sorry about that, my mistake. My brother took me on a boat trip some years back and I found Milford Sound absolutely breathtaking. I've got photos somewhere of us on the boat with that view in the background! He also took me down the glow-worm caves (though he had no idea I'm claustrophobic and I had a panic attack whilst in there). We went down in the underwater observatory too which was also fascinating.

I know what you mean about the weather, it can be extremely cold, can't it. I've done two trips over there and on my 2nd the weather was so wet and cold that I had 2 radiators on in the bedroom to try to keep warm. Still, it's such a beautiful country I was quite happy to wrap up warm for my stay.

Re Avator - I've checked that out and on my profile page I see the avator section at the bottom BUT, for some reason it doesn't give me access to it. I'll have another look. Thanks for your help! :)
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Fabulous map, pity you can't still buy them... but does anyone know the location of York St, I always believed it was at the back of Strand Road somewhere, my rellies lived there eons ago.
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Hi Michael
Had a quick look on the old map I have and there were at least 3 York Streets back then in Liverpool but I can't see one near Strand Rd. Maybe someone else has a much older map and can find it for you.
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rockanrollagain

Emma interesting map I notice that on your first one Miranda Rd runs from Wadham right through to Balliol... I only know it as stopping at Wadham. Can anyone shed any light ? Did Miranda Road run right through the park to Balliol road?, if so they should re-name the path Miranda Way.

Has anyone got any old pics of days gone by in Kings park? I remember when the paddling pool was open and we went for picnics and a whole day out.
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Yes, it does doesn't it Paula - is it called South Park Way today?
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Emma,are your maps taken from Bartholomew's pocket Atlas and Guide to Liverpool 1928 priced at one shilling,if so, i have the same book. It is good isn't it.~~~~~jjc
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No, John, mine is a separate "Town Plan" of Liverpool printed on cloth not sure of date but probably c1930 with index price 3/6d :)
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Yes, Emma now you mention it South Park Way sounds right. Do you have any old ones of the Bailey Drive area?
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No, afraid not Paula - there are no streets of that area on the map as it was probably being built. Is there anything in particular you are looking for?
rockanrollagain

Hello Emma, no just curious as to what was there before the houses were built aprox 1927?
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