Peerless refinary, Bootle

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rivermersey
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Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:57 am

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Under construction, The Peerless Bootle almost near to completion, I'm guessing this is early 1950's. Dunningsbridge Road looks quiet. The Peerless employed many thousands of local people during it's existance.
Born in Bootle 1960 lived on Bailey Drive then the old roan.
Joycen60
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Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:44 am

Where are you getting these great photos from?
Lived Olive grove- just in Bootle. Schools Netherton Moss A, Netherton Park and Bootle Girls Grammar
diyman

Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:36 pm

Joycen60 wrote:Where are you getting these great photos from?
if he tells you that, he might have to do you in,,, :D
Dan
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:05 pm

Found this from November 11 2016 Gazette.

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There are some well known Merseyside businesses in that list.
Liverpool Central Oil (always referred to as LCO) on Oriel Street, off Vauxhall Road.
The Peerless. I always associate the Vernon Young name (Southport family) with the Peerless.
Brittania Lard in Birkenhead.

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Founded November 14 1921.
Final accounts filed September 1996.

Ad from 1976.

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Dan
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:40 pm

Noticed this today.

Sir Leslie Young, Chairman and Managing Director of J Bibby & Sons.
One of the main drivers behind the beginning of the regeneration of Liverpool in the 1980s.

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May 2 1984 with the Queen at the Garden Festival.

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Dan
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fatboyjoe90
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:30 am

In the early 1980s, I used to go into the Peerless with my wagon and load up with frying fat and cooking oils, and take it all over the country and the cash was good in those days. :wink:
Cheers Joe.
henry
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:45 pm

remember the fella who died when he drowned in the vat of oil
HENRY BORN FLORIDA STREET OFF STRAND ROAD
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fatboyjoe90
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:52 pm

Hiya Henry, that rings a bell with me, do you have anymore info on it? :wink:
Cheers Joe.
Dan
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:30 am

I can't find a reference on the net.
I think the accident occurred when I was working at Bibby's. Early to mid 80s.
The man was reported missing at the end of his shift.
The site was searched, his home address was checked, all without success.
His last movements were traced.
It was thought he had gone up on top of the storage tanks. A lot of the tanks were sampled from the top in those days.
One of the tanks was found with an open manhole cover.
The tank was drained and the body was found.
Because of the low density, you can't float in oil- you just sink to the bottom.
I'm sure someone will know his name.

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Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:26 am

It was definitely in the Peerless
HENRY BORN FLORIDA STREET OFF STRAND ROAD
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:53 am

Walking along Dunningsbridge Road to Scotts at 5 AM was hell in the 70s. Peerless used to emit an acrid smelling smoke, which use to stay in the back of your throat. The smell of fresh bread from Scott's was always welcome. Everytime I smell Jacob's, it always takes me back to those days.
Joycen60
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:09 am

Living near the Peerless factory always remember the smell!!
Lived Olive grove- just in Bootle. Schools Netherton Moss A, Netherton Park and Bootle Girls Grammar
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Invicta
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:36 am

Agree, I’d walk through there for Courtaulds, horrible on a nice Summer morning at 05.30am. K
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:41 pm

The odours coming from the Peerless would have been composed of short chain carboxlic acids (butyric, caproic, caprylic and capric)
Butyric acid smells of rancid butter.
Caper is Latin for goat. So the other three are variations of the smell of goat.
Mixed into this heady aroma would be the volatiles from the various types of fish oil that was processed there.
So not just the smell of fish, but the concentrated smell of the off- odours form the deterioration of the fish oil that occurs during extraction and transit.

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Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:55 pm

Thanks, Dan, makes me feel better knowing what crap I was breathing in. :D
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:39 pm

Surprised we survived. I remember coming out of the NORWEST social club to be hit with that, not nice after 6 pints :shock:
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:12 am

My dad actually helped build the new factory in the 50's
He was a bricklayer
All the facade was red brick
I believe the guy that died was named Tommy Long
Someone told me that so can't say for sure
When I was a young lad I used to ride the 28 bus into liverpool with Tommy and Norman Gwyther
Each morning
When I was courting my wife in 67 we were at the Hare and Hounds in the lounge when in walked Tommy,Penno(Pennington) and Clucas
They proceeded to loudly fart the entire time they were there.
Still laugh about it
Now live in white Rock BC
Bootle Grammar Buck
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:18 am

Thanks for the story, Dennis, welcome to the forum. :D
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:30 pm

Dennis, I went to Netherton Moss with Norman Gwyther , very good footballer.
He used to live facing the school field.
Cheers Ken
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fatboyjoe90
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:02 am

Hiya Dennis did you used live on Herford Drive? :wink:
Cheers Joe.
Paullong
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:00 am

Hi all.

The man died in the tanks was called Tommy Long from Netherton . He was my uncle, happened before I was born so I don't know much of how it happened.
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