St Mary,s Church

[bob. b]

Looking into when st mary's church was bombed any information will be helpful.
Looking for date and time research again interesting that was hit.
Wish my granddad was here could ask him.
Why didn't they teach us about the blitzes in Bootle at school

Bobby

[bob. b]

Hope Ken can help me on this one
Who was the timber merchants next to St Mary's School
Just before and in the war
Found some info
Who was the timber merchants by Bootle Hospital

Thanks Bobby

[Mack]

Hiya Bob,

I've moved this over to 'Talk about the History of Bootle here' to keep things tight with topics. It would have just got lost if it was just left in 'Chat About anything' and I will also leave it there too as a redirect shadow topic.

Mack

[bob. b]

Thanks, Mack Bobby

[Jan]

Hi Bob

I am struggling to post articles etc on here, so I have had to write snippets out.

I found this article in The Liverpool Echo 3rd January 1941.

The City's best known church St Nicholas at the Pier Head was completely destroyed by fire: Only the walls and tower are standing.
St Aidan's Liverpool, St Athanasius Kirkdale, and St Mary's Bootle were badly damaged.


There was an appeal in the Echo 6th January 1941 for the services for St Mary's to be carried out in St Mary's school.

Then in 1961 the Bootle Garden of rest on the old church site of St Mary's Bootle was opened to the public.


Jan

[bob. b]

Jan thank you so much with regards to St mary's church
Any information on date when it was hit.
Across the road by the school was a wood yard what was the name of the woodyard merchants.

[Jan]

Hi Bob,

I looked in the 1938 directory and found there was Lamb Bros wood merchants on Irlam Road.

Is that the one?

There was also W.H Caldwell & Co Timber Merchants and Ritter Lumber Co in Irlam Road

Re date St Mary's was hit, I am trying to find it, I have a full list of what was hit by bombs in Bootle in WW2 but I have mislaid it. I will have a good look for it. I got the list from Crosby Library a few years ago.

Jan

[Jan]

Found my list now Bob.

Irlam Road.

30-8-40 Incendiaries. Houses damaged

21-12-40 High explosives and incendiaries. houses damaged. St Mary's church gutted.

So it would have been what was known as the Christmas Bombing I think.

Jan

[Invicta]

https://www.iom3.org/sites/default/file ... 20Book.pdf

Hi Bobby,
I have no personal info re your message but if you scroll through this LTTA history you might find a name that rings a bell.
It might also be of interest to Bobhamo our historian.
Cheers
Ken

[bob. b]

Ken, thanks, interesting information in that book.

Bobby

[bob. b]

Old views

[bob. b]

This now mentions May not Christmas Blitz's ??

Mentions all the other churches but not st Mary's???

[bob. b]

St Mary's Church School and Littlewoods building to the left

[bob. b]

21st December 1940, Blitz Final got the date and now Know it was Christmas blitz and not the may blitz Thanks to Jan

[bob. b]

Well looking at the aerial view above you can see the church and to the left, you can see the Littlewoods building also lots of timber merchants in the area also Mersey installation next to the school. Well is there anyone on the forum that would remember any member of their family working in the building at this time.

I will continue to look at some more records found that it was hit 21st December 1940 Christmas Blitz not much on the records but will look more deeply into this.

The huge Irlam Road Littlewoods factory at Bootle, which proved one of Littlewoods most hectic centres of the production, was a veteran from World War 1. In 1914/18 it was used for making boats and was once again boat building in 1942, the boat again selected for boat building in 1942, the boats, however, being pontoons and storm boats constructed on scientific mass production lines. Not surprisingly the receiving bay for the pontoon Division was the exact spot wherein the last war motorboats had been tested in small tanks. Before 1939, Irlam Road was one of the chains of six-building devoted to Pools, but in 1940 it was taken over for the final assembly and testing of the first barrage balloons. Two adjoining buildings were also devoted to balloons, one continuing this work even after the main factory annexe had gone over to the construction of pontoons. Actually, the factory remained on balloon work until the sudden switch over to the ''Tilefer '' contract which necessitated several structural alterations and the pulling down of the bridge which ran across the middle of the factory.

Most of the people would have been from the Bootle area, must have a talk with my uncle to see if he has information on this.

Well, will be posting soon with more information regarding St Marys Church

Regards Bobby

[bob. b]

[bob. b]

1947-littlewoods

[bob. b]

Well got it now
But would like to see some input from people who worked there your mother father aunty anyone
Going talk to someone from Littlewoods if l can?
Happy days for me lots of hours spent on this. but got a result
Just need people who worked there

Bobby Will put more information on this post

[bob. b]

Got some more information will put it on later
Did any member of your family work there
Going to put wartime working in the building hope someone can see a member of their family would make my day.

Bobby

[bob. b]

Going to contact Jan on this one maybe can shine a light on my research

Love this wish my granddad was with us.

Has anyone got married and baptized records in the church?

Going to see my uncle Joey on this one he has got a fantastic memory's worked for JRT in canal st

[Jan]

Hi Bob,

Baptisms, marriage and burial records for St Mary's Bootle are available to view on microfilm at Liverpool records office or at Crosby library.

There are also records online on Ancestry.co.uk website (a sub is needed) I had a look and the burials for St Mary's start from 1827. There are some famous names buried in St Mary's. Jesse Hartley of the Liverpool docks fame is buried there, his headstone can still be seen there.



I found his burial record on the ancestry website.

Jan

[Matt]

My great grandparents where married in St Mary,s and were
also buried there.When we went to Bootle with Red Ron and Ron W.
they helped us looking for their gravestones that were just piled up
against a fence where the cemetery used to be but looking for the surname "Smith"
was a no go!
Matt

[fatboyjoe90]

Old photo of St Mary's Church.

[bob. b]

great picture Joe

[fatboyjoe90]

Thanks for that Bob.

[filsgreen]

I thought it was crust church at first Joe.

[fatboyjoe90]

I thought it was crust church at first Joe.

A toasted Crust Church Phil.

[filsgreen]

[john j connell]

I thought it was crust church at first Joe.

Phil, I thought it was the Holy Toast. JJC.

[filsgreen]

There's no knead for all this, lads.

[bob. b]

Found these of St Mary's Church
Bobby

[fatboyjoe90]

Great photos of St Mary's Church Bob.

[bob. b]

Thanks, Joe
All ways look forward to reading your jokes
Great you posting again say safe.

Bobby

[Dan]

Found these of St Mary's Church
Bobby

The photograph postcards above were made by William Thomas Wright (W & Co) of 324 Stanley Road.

The details of Wright and some of the other local postcard makers are given in the article below.

Bootle Times June 26 1997

[bob. b]

Fantastic bit of history Dan
My Family had a chip shop by the School and church but never seen a picture of this.
There were shops on both sides as you came over the coffee house bridge then the church ground and the school.
Would love to see pictures of this.


Bobby