What’s happening at The Cabbage?
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Bri
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Passed the site of the now demolished Cabbage Inn on Gorsey Lane today and from the top of a double decker bus, (I was with my grandson and yes we were pretending to drive) I could see what appeared to be an archeological dig being carried out. I could clearly see the exposed foundations of a small building and a cobbled drive leading to Gorsey Lane. Anybody know anymore?
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BOBHAMO
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Hi Bri looking at the early map moss lane ran down the side of the pub
but the later map its changed to swifts lane and blocked off by the new houses
a smithy has been there a long time
B H is beer house
G P is guide post
P pump
try and find out more
bobhamo
bootle born altcar road
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DenisO2019
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Bri wrote:Passed the site of the now demolished Cabbage Inn on Gorsey Lane today and from the top of a double decker bus, (I was with my grandson and yes we were pretending to drive) I could see what appeared to be an archeological dig being carried out. I could clearly see the exposed foundations of a small building and a cobbled drive leading to Gorsey Lane. Anybody know anymore?
The archaeological dig is on the site of the original Cabbage Inn which dates from at least the mid 19th Century. The Cabbage was run by my ancestors. The dig is being done to support a planning application. I was able to visit the site of the dig a few months ago. The foundations of the old pub were uncovered and I was able to see the rooms my ancestors had lived in - a fascinating piece of family history.
The old McGinity's pub (which was also called the Cabbage Inn), was about 25 yards in front of the 1930s Cabbage Inn pub. The first documented usage of the name "The Cabbage" was in 1881.
The first recorded licensee of McGinity's was Alice Rimmer (nee Morley) (my great, great grandmother). The 1861 census records her as head of the household, aged 42, a "licensed beer-house keeper". She is still in the Cabbage Inn in the 1871 Census, named as the “Buckley Hill Beerhouse” on the census form. In the 1881 Census Alice is still Innkeeper.
In 1878 her daughter Elizabeth Rimmer married Michael McGinity, a coachman who had moved to Liverpool from Ireland. Michael and Elizabeth were my great grandparents. In the 1891 census Michael is shown as publican of the pub, living with his wife Elizabeth and their children, one of whom was Elizabeth McGinity, my grandmother, who was born in the old Cabbage Inn in 1890. Michael continued as publican until his death in 1904, when his widow Elizabeth took over. She ran it until her death in 1912. The pub remained in the family being run by their son Lawrence on Elizabeth's death, and Lawrence's widow Mary Katherine McGinity on his death.
The pub was run by our family continuously from at least 1861 until 1936 – more than 75 years.
The old pub was demolished in 1933 to make way for road widening and was replaced by the new Cabbage Inn. Mary ran the new Cabbage until her death in 1936.
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Dan
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Reference to the archaeological dig mentioned above by Denis.
The report is available as a 94 page download, free of charge, from the University of Salford. Link is posted below.(Checked, it does work)
https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/li ... yLitSeries
Cover and authorship as below.
The forum gets a mention on pages 18-23, referring to the Bootle Times 1934 article, below, being reproduced in Appendix 3.
Bootle Times December 1934.
Renovation of The White House and the Cabbage Inn.
The report is available as a 94 page download, free of charge, from the University of Salford. Link is posted below.(Checked, it does work)
https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/li ... yLitSeries
Cover and authorship as below.
The forum gets a mention on pages 18-23, referring to the Bootle Times 1934 article, below, being reproduced in Appendix 3.
Bootle Times December 1934.
Renovation of The White House and the Cabbage Inn.
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Dan
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Cheers Bri & Bob
Looking at one of the artefacts recovered from the old well on the premises.
An old Threlfall's ashtray from the 1930's.
Today on the net one would set you back £65.
I've re-edited the original 1934 article to highlight the references to the Cabbage.
Interesting explanation for the derivation of the name for The Cabbage.
Looking at one of the artefacts recovered from the old well on the premises.
An old Threlfall's ashtray from the 1930's.
Today on the net one would set you back £65.
I've re-edited the original 1934 article to highlight the references to the Cabbage.
Interesting explanation for the derivation of the name for The Cabbage.
