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Postby losull1954 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:45 pm

I am trying to out any find information about my grandfather Patrick Riley. According to his Merchant Navy discharge card, he was born in Bootle, Liverpool, in May 1888. On the 1901 census for Bootle cum Linacre, there is a Patrick Riley aged 13, living in Henry Street. At the time of his marriage in 1920 he was living at Holywell Street, Bootle. He was married in Barrow in Furness to my grandmother Jennie Nixon. They settled in Whitehaven,Cumberland.This is where he died in 1929.
I have been searching for his birth record,but up until now, have had no luck. I am hoping there might be someone who maybe might know something about the Riley family from Bootle.
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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby Jan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:26 pm

Hi,

Welcome to the site,

Do you have a copy of Patrick's marriage cert? If so, could you give us his father's name and occupation please?

There is a possible Patrick Riley on the 1891 census in Bootle (Church Street) Mother Mary Anne Riley, married age 29 born Birkenhead
Richard Riley son age 6, Patrick son age 3, John son age 1. Also Margt McQuade mother-in law (could be Mary's mother) born Ireland, the children all born Bootle.

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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby Jan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:31 pm

:D

Found the details of the 1901 census, father is Patrick Riley age 40 Ship's fireman, born Ireland.

I will see what else I can find.

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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby Jan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:53 pm

Hi,

I found Patrick's sister's marriage (Margaret Alice Riley) in 1917 Bootle St Mary.

3rd March 1917 Thomas Charles Twist Bachelor age 25 Seaman Marine Fireman, address 29 Holywell St Bootle father Nicholas Twist (deceased) Labourer
Margaret Alice Riley spinster age 21 address 4 Holywell St Bootle father Patrick Riley (deceased) Marine Fireman

Witnesses: Thomas Webster Florence Porter.

I think Margaret Alice (Twist) re-married) 1922 to Henry C Johnson.

Hope that helps a bit

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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby losull1954 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:30 pm

Hi Jan,

Thank you for the welcome and information.

I do have a copy of their marriage certificate, his fathers name is down as Patrick Riley(deceased), occupation Mariner Merchant Service.

I do think all the info you have given me is my Patrick, but without a birth record I cannot be 100% sure, and I'm not sure whether to add this info to my Family Tree.

I have contacted all the registry offices in the area,looked at the free bmd website and the Lancashire bmd website.

I am beginning to think his birth was not registered. I do appreciate this did happen,sometimes, back then.

Thanks again

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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby Jan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:34 am

Hi Lesley,

It could be a case that the birth wasn't registered.

However, I found these baptisms on the liverpoolhistoryprojects website for St Winifred Bootle

Year-Ref
Church
Volume (page)
Year of Birth
Year of Baptism
Forename
Surname
Forename of Father
Surname of Father (if different)
Forename of Mother
Maiden Name of Mother
For Full Details of this Baptism
1896-6358
ST WINIFRED
282-WIN-1-1 (23)
1896
1896
MARGARET ALICE
RILEY
PATRICK

MARY ANN
BURNS
REQUEST FORM
1900-6506
ST WINIFRED
282-WIN-1-1 (130)
1900
1900
MARY ANN
RILEY
PATRICK

MARY ANN
BURNS

If they are the baptisms of Patrick's sisters, notice the mother's maiden name as Burns, it could be that Mary's mother was Burns and perhaps re-married McQuaid.

I found this marriage 1877 Lancsbmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
Surname
Forename(s)
Surname
Forename(s)
Church / Register Office
Registers At
Reference
RILEY
Patrick
BURNS
Mary
West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Liverpool
REG_WD/83/167

The marriage took place at St James Bootle (info from liverpoolhistoryprojects website.
 
 
Year
Ref
Church
Forename
Latin Version
Surname
Spouse Forename
Latin Version
Spouse Surname
For Full Details of this Marriage
1877
498
ST JAMES BOOTLE
PATRICK
PATRICIUM
RILEY
MARY
MARIAM
BURNS

If you go to the website http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... riages.php and find the baptisms and the marriage, you can click on where it says request form and request the actual entries taken from the parish records I think they are about £3 each or all 3 for £10 or alternatively the records are on film reels at Liverpool Records Office or Crosby Library, you can get the print outs from the film reels for about £1 each.


Margaret Alice Riley's birth reg

Name:
Margaret Alice Riley
Registration Year:
1896
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:
West Derby
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
Lancashire
Volume:
8b
Page:
476

It may be worth getting a copy of Margaret's birth cert to confirm parents and the address and try and match it up to census records.

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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby losull1954 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:36 pm

Hi Jan,

Thank you very much for the information. So pleased.

I have a copy of Margarets birth certificate and it confirms both parents names as Patrick Riley and Mary Ann Burns.

I did think it was the wrong one, because I was looking for McQuaid as the mothers maiden name. I had not thought about her re-marrying.

I will have a look at the liverpoolhistoryprojects website.

Thank you again.

Lesley
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Re: Patrick Riley

Postby Thommos sister » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:10 am

Just to say to Our Jan, well done lass for helping out here, great info and wombating. Brill T.S :D
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