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jwalker85@hotmail.com
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Location: San Antonio, Texas

Greetings to all my friends in Bootle and Merseyside and Australia of course!!!
I wonder if anyone can prove to me that there was a Liverpool Pilot named
ROBERT WALKER his active life would be circa 1812 - 1842 in Liverpool.

I have been unable to find Robert Walker the Pilot.. Instead I think he was Robert
Griffiths b 1795 and died in 1842. I believe his daughter Ellen as second/third
marriage when she married George Enslow in 1850 (St.Peters) put her father
down as GEORGE WALKER PILOT.

Any suggestion most welcome, I have been working on this for eight years.
Thanking in anticipation. Joe Walker in Texas.
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lily8
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Location: Far North Queensland Australia

Hi Joe hope you are keeping well to kick this one off here are all the names from the register

Robert Armstrong
Ellen Aspinall
George Enslow
Ann Lyons
William Owens
Patrick Raffertey
Patrick Rafferty
Margaret Reed
Ellen Walker
I am not sure if the actual church record can be looked up in Liverpool for you but I am sure the other 'Genies' will know. It will be easier to work with a copy of the actual certificate. Back Later
Lily
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Jan
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Hi Joe & Lily

The marriage on familysearch has this info


George Enslow
mentioned in the record of George Enslow and Ellen Walker
Name George Enslow
Spouse's Name Ellen Walker
Event Date 05 Nov 1850
Event Place St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name John Enslow
Spouse's Father's Name Robert Walker
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed

Jan
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Jan
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Hi Joe,

The marriage is on lancashire online parish clerks

Marriage: 5 Nov 1850 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Enslow - Full, Mariner, Widower, Denison St
Ellen Walker - (X), Full, Widow, Denison St
Groom's Father: John Enslow, Farmer
Bride's Father: Robert Walker, Pilot
Witness: William Turner, (X); Elizabeth Watson
Married by Banns by: J. G. Headlam M. A. Curate
Register: Marriages 1850 - 1851, Page 146, Entry 292
Source: LDS Film 1656510

I had a look in the 1821 directory and there was a Robert Walker listed as a Mariner. 44 Upper Harrington Street.

Jan
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jwalker85@hotmail.com
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Just to let you know that on the wedding certificates the Children of Ellen Walker said....

Sarah Ann Walker (birth 1843/1844)said her father was Thomas Walker
James Walker (birth 1847/1848) ( My Great Grandfather) said his father was John Walker.

If the #2 husband was a John Thomas Walker then Ellen Walker most likely could have been
Ellen Griffiths, as I mentioned previously.
Later I will present my facts that both Ellen Griffiths and Ellen Walker lived in all the same Roads in Liverpool, but only
Ellen Griffiths shows up in the 1841 Census with her father Robert Griffiths PILOT.
Joe Walker
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jwalker85@hotmail.com
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I have been in touch with the Liverpool Museum and there was no person names Robert Walker,
who was a Liverpool Pilot. .
Ellen's children were given the name Walker- Sarah Ann Walker and James Walker
so possibly then Ellen Griffiths must have had children with a Thomas/John Walker. :D
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Robyn
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Probably not connected but can put photo of certificates on if you wish,, Robyn

Michael George Walker
Birth Feb 1810 Llotus N.B.
Master's Certificate of Service
Issued 17 March 1851 Liverpool
Port of Liverpool Cert. No. 48.210

Michael George Walker
Age 45 Birth 1810
Birth Place St. John N.B.
Certificate of Competency as Master
Issued 19 July 1855
Port of Glasgow Cert. No. 12787
Robyn
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Jan
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Hi Joe,

Could this be the marriage of Ellen Griffiths and Thomas Walker?

There is no other info on it as regards to addresses or father's names.

Marriage: 23 Mar 1835 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Walker - Mariner, Liverpool
Ellen Griffiths - Spinster, Liverpool
Married by Banns by: O. Ormerod Curate
Register: Marriages 1835, Page 5, Entry 155
Source: LDS Film 1068891

Jan
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jwalker85@hotmail.com
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Robyn: Sorry, Unfortunately a Master of a ship is quite different of being a Liverpool Mersey Pilot.

Dear Jan, That's just what I was thinking! Do you think there is anyway in Liverpool to see the original marriage records?
Kind Regards, Joe Walker in Texas
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Jan
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Hi Joe,

The Bishop's Transcript for the marriage is on ancestry (actual image). Ancestry have Thomas Walker as Wallen, I have had a look at the actual image and it is the same info as I have given above.

Name: Ellen Griffiths
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Mar 1835
Parish: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Thomas Wallen
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Jan
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