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snap election

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:46 am
by Brunnyboy
looks like another term of tory rule because of jerry the clowns labour party

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:07 pm
by Bernie R

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:52 pm
by WatsonTommy
well brunny boy :roll: the old saying is cut your nose off to spite your face

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:01 am
by lily8
Bernie R wrote:The final General Election????

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/ ... 0418126203

:lol:


Bernie many a true word spoken in jest :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:23 pm
by Brunnyboy
I would never vote for the torys but they are against this invasion of immigrants not strong enough in my opinion ukip for me soon as they get here send them back mostly young men. jerry the clown would allow open borders that's the main reason labour are doing so poor in the polls

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:05 pm
by WatsonTommy
any working man votes tory is like turkeys voting for christmas :roll:

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:28 pm
by Brunnyboy
vote for labour and thousands more terrorists will come here every year with there open boarders policy vote ukip

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:37 pm
by WatsonTommy
well believe the tory press if :twisted: want but if you dont vote for this clever man goodby to the N.H.S MATE dont forget were you come from brunny

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:22 am
by Brunnyboy
I would never vote for the torys but while jerry the clown is the leader or the Labour Party only ukip for me

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:02 pm
by filsgreen
Alan, why do you purport to be a a Labour supporter, but then insult the only genuine Labour leader since John Smith? Mr Corbyn's values are very much in line with what the true Labour person holds dearly.

He is the only mainstream political leader, that has the working man's interests at heart. At the end if the day 313,000 Labour supporters kept him in office. As i speak, he has just promised to give nurses a pay rise and stop the cap of 1%, that the Tories imposed.

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:08 pm
by Shelagh
Well said Phil..not a man of anger, hate and greed, but one of honour....word that doesn't go down well with voters of today :(

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:03 pm
by Brunnyboy
just because you are honest does not make you a leader look at football managers the say the right thing but have not got a clue how to lead that's how jerry seems to me still ukip for me close the boarders

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:08 pm
by filsgreen
Do you know, Alan? I was wrong to question your opinion. You have got your beliefs, right or wrong, at least you are are going to vote. Voting for UKIP in a strong Labour constituency, will just be as pointless as voting for the Conservative party. Plus, if you feel honesty is all that Jerry the clown (in your words) has to offer, well the damage done by Tony Blair is irrevocable. :cry:

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:29 pm
by Brunnyboy
All political groups have to start somewhere they have to build a following as you say its all about opinions I see on Facebook the left wingers insult everyone one who does not agree with them

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:25 pm
by Brunnyboy

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:28 pm
by WatsonTommy
still vote labour even if you dont like jeremy corbyn

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:16 am
by Brunnyboy
not looking good for labour jerry has destroyed the labour party keep losing seats in the council elections

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:13 pm
by Brunnyboy
If a football manager is as bad as jerry they get sacked it gets you angry he won't resign people don't like him he is a poor leader

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:16 pm
by oldroanerroamer
Master stroke by theresa m, labour & ukip wiped out, Scots nazis on back foot and general election still to come. That's why she's a politician

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:59 pm
by WatsonTommy
simple vote labour

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:08 am
by lily8
From a far away Australia and being somewhat of a cynic in political fields I think this calling of an election is a master stroke of political expediency. So much will be swept under the carpet(that was important that would have been aired) in the throes of an election.

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:56 am
by filsgreen
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Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:11 am
by filsgreen
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Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:28 pm
by oldroanerroamer
Jerry can promise the electorate anything he likes safe in the knowledge that he has zero chance of having to deliver after the election. OK he was voted into the job but the honourable thing to do would have been to step aside and let someone take over who has a cat in halls chance. Unfortunately the labour party are stuck with an antiquated set of rules which stop them moving into the 21st century and deprive the country from having a credible and effective opposition. No doubt the penny will drop eventually. Bring back Tony and Gordon (only joking).

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:39 pm
by filsgreen
It could be contended, that Neil Kinnock and Michael Foot were just as poor candidates as Jeremy Corbyn. However, the voting populace in the 80's, probably cared less about style over substance. Yet they were not vilified or lambasted by the press, as much as the present leader of the opposition.

Yes, Mr Corbyn hasn't got as much front bench experience as his rivals, however, he is the leader of the Labour party and as such, Labour supporters have to respect the office and get behind him.

It's not blind faith; I rationalise it by thinking of when i was in the TA. There was an officer who, to be nice, I didn't respect as a person, regardless of that fact; I had to salute him. I dealt with it by the fact, that I was saluting the office, not the person.

Likewise, if you detest Mr Corbyn as a politician, don't let this blight you to the fact that if you don't vote for him, the Conservatives will have another four years in which to look after their cronies, and walk all over the working class.

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:24 am
by bjones
filsgreen wrote:It's not blind faith; I rationalise it by thinking of when i was in the TA. There was an officer who, to be nice, I didn't respect as a person, regardless of that fact; I had to salute him. I dealt with it by the fact, that I was saluting the office, not the person.


Just catching up Phil and felt the need to respond to this one of your many good posts on this thread.
I understand the analogy you make but have to ask; whilst you accept that you would salute the office not the person would you have been prepared to vote for this officer to be promoted to run the army?

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:33 am
by bernie johno
https://www.facebook.com/TRTP2/videos/811862412306014/
give this a watch if you do not like mr corbyn after this i respect your opinion :D :D :wink:

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:47 am
by filsgreen
If the powers that be adjudged him to be competent for that role, Bee, then I would have no choice. Having said that; I am capable of independent thought, if he gave an order that I considered to be morally or ethically wrong, for example; he ordered civilians to be executed, then I would challenge the order.

Just as i hope the 313,000 Labour party members, that voted Mr Corbyn into office, will challenge any dodgey decisions he may make. There are many people whom I have disliked over the years, Bee and if I chose to ignore them; I would have been sacked from a few jobs. :D

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:17 am
by bjones
Phil, mine was a rhetorical question but as you've answered it...YOU and I are "the powers that be" who are being asked to judge his competence: that's why I asked the question.
Like you I've worked for people I neither like or respect but have also worked for people I dislike but who can get the job done better than those I like.
Have you never worked with a ward sister who was a fantastic nurse but lacked the ability to organise work or staff? Similarly great schoolteachers are often taken out of the classroom and promoted to fail as headteachers. Horses for courses as the saying goes.
I take your point re 313,000 party members but the average British voter(myself included) is not poitically engaged enough to be a member of any political party and only express their opinion on voting day.

Bern, can't get a vid on that link just a poster?

For what it's worth on this debate my opinion is yet to be fully formed. As a life long labour voter and trade union member I've never before had any doubt . Even back in 1983, knowing that the much mocked Michael Foot was on a hiding to nothing I still voted with my heart. I had so much respect and admiration for Mr Foot that I knew where I'd put my cross.

Jeremy Corbyn certainly comes across as a man of honour and a true socialist but I keep thinking talks cheap. Where's the money coming from for all that he's promising us? His figures really don't add up. Further, I simply don't see him as a statesman. We need someone with the intellect and experience to see us through the next few years.
So to how will I vote....I will most certainly be attending the polling station but what, if anything will I mark on my voting paper …. there's my problem

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:46 pm
by filsgreen
I take your point, Bee. Yes, we are the powers that be, but the official Labour party members voted him into office. As I've said; I'm obliged to vote for him as there is no other choice. Who are the Labour supporters going to vote for, if they don't like Mr Corbyn?

You don't have to make the figures work, as we are in debt already. The Conservatives espouse austerity measures, but what has it achieved? They used that excuse to cut back on public spending for their own ends.

America is in debt to the tune of over 19 trillion, do they have austerity measures? Our debt is just over 2 trillion. Their population is five times the size of ours, so the average American owes a lot more than their British counterpart.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

I'm of the opinion that this country is riddled with the "I'm alright Jack" mentality and they are only interested in that they can get for themselves. What if Britain had have adopted today's mentality in August 1945?

Britain was totally skint then and it had to borrow heavily to develop the welfare state and build homes for for heroes. The Labour Gov't were brave enough to do this and were endorsed by the working class populace.

I think we're at the same crossroads now and it needs the likes of a traditional Labour leader to restore the country back to what we were proud of. However, this country has been dumbed down so that the person of above average intelligence has the ability to treat the average voter, like sheep.

The Tories dangle promises of no income tax cuts and the wanbabee Conservatives slaver over it. However, they have not ruled out increasing VAT, thus negating any gain they promised the sheeple.

As to your opinion of Mr Corbyn; I certainly respect that. However, Clement Attlee didn't have the vast political experience, that Winston Churchill possessed, but the British people chose him anyway.

After all, Mr Corbyn is the leader of the Labour party, but he is only one person and the majority of Parliament has to endorse his policies. If he is elected, the UK will decide if he is fit for purpose, otherwise he will be replaced, just like Tony Blair was.

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:44 pm
by Sheelagh Tequila
Each to their own........me, I`m voting for my daughter to stay in her job as full time teaching assistant,,she`s already been told there is a possibility her hours may be cut to half come September......... I`m voting for the NHS to be saved......., I`ve already voted out on Europe and I`ve voted for the new Mayor..............so many boxes to tick my my hands are worn away :roll: .......Oh yes I,m voting for Labour........ 8) I think T. May is alright but she is still a conservative .


Sheelagh Tequila :D

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:49 pm
by Shelagh
Great speech by Jeremy Corbyn, thanks for sharing Bernie :wink:

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 3:25 pm
by filsgreen
I forgot to thank you for posting that video, Bernie. You won't see that on the BBC, he is far too articulate. They would rather focus on Diane Abbott.

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:18 pm
by WatsonTommy
i was foolish enough to pay in to a pension scheme when working when i retired went to the social the adjudicating (SOCIAL SERVICE) officer told me i cant apply for pension credit as im getting 82pence over the allowance therefore you are not eligable :roll it was social security then: so if you never payed in to the system never worked in your life you get everthing :roll: so teresa may will stop the fuel allowance on everyone thats not on this pension credit im 74 YRS OLD and pay for dental treatment poll tax glasses etc the only thing i get free is a bus pass :D so i go on a mystery tour now and then jump a bus into the unknown (southport today) :) tommorow witherspoons im a travelling man :D well what else can you do when your skint ( well the weather getting better so i can go on me bike BRUNNYBOY :P do you go out in your chaufered rolls royce :D jesus of nazareth was a a peacefull man told it as it was and he was cruisified by the jewish super rich cos he threw them out of the house of worship they were using it as a flea market to make a few bob OLDROAMER you forget were you come from mate :cry: listen to corbyn and dont be biased

Re: snap election

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:23 pm
by WatsonTommy
SO SORRY to hear about brunnyboy REST IN PEACE my consoleces to the family