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Re: christianity

Postby WatsonTommy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:08 pm

smoked out wrote:So less and less going to church tells you they are believers ? I hear more and more saying it is all rubbish and they don't go to church , also it seems to me that many are choosing not to use a church at their death , many just have themselves taken direct to the crem or whatever as they have no belief .The religions are changing to fit in with whatever is flavour of the month , gay marriage and homosexuality seems to be in flavour and favour this month.
funerals are too expensive now :?:so they bypass the church now :roll:
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Re: christianity

Postby Brunnyboy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:11 pm

I have been to a few funerals lately and no religion was allowed they did believe in god
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Re: christianity

Postby Shelagh » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:21 pm

Churches today, not as popular as in the past..once open all day, now closed to the public....locked and bolted, due to reasons of security!!

Stained glass church windows, once visible to the world...now mostly caged or covered by Perspex.... vandalism a very costly business!!

Commercialism - Sunday opening...also plays a large part in decreasing numbers of attendances...shopping precincts being the more attractive option!!

Plus - bad publicity - scandals - court cases - must be costing churches and religious groups millions!!

Times and people have changed..most churches trying to adapt in order to keep with political trends..doesn't seem to be working though, worshipers turning away in their droves for whatever reason!!!

Tommy, you could have a point regarding funeral costs..average costing over three thousand for a one car job (according to item on the radio) some will have to skimp and scrape to find such a large amount..and if it means cutting out the frills, such as a church service, suppose they have no option!!

Most worshipers these day's tend to be of the older generation, or family's with young children...all helping to make the numbers up!
Disheartening for clergy..preaching to empty pews!!

Will the days of filled churches ever return :? know of five churches in my area, three still very much in use for occasions such as Christening's, Weddings, Funerals, Easter and Christmas, one church closed and almost derelict, the other turned into flats!!
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Re: christianity

Postby Marie777 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:54 am

I have no wish to become embroiled in this discussion but just for the record

I will quote

"I would rather spend my whole life believing in God, then die to find that there isn't one.

Than spend my whole life not believing in God, then die to discover there is."

Quote from Albert Camus French Philosopher 1913 / 1960.
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Re: christianity

Postby Shelagh » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:06 am

Similar philosophy Marie :)
Would rather go through life with a false hope, than have no hope of anything...and be right :(
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Re: christianity

Postby Brunnyboy » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:46 am

that's the con of religion getting you to believe so the preachers ect make you part with money why do you have go to church ect is your house not good enough to pray
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Re: christianity

Postby Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:47 am

FINALLY....FINALLY.

Sensible posts arriving. (Thanks to Marie777 and Shelagh)

When I visited Jerusalem I was surprised to find how many religions were there. I saw many things that proved to me conclusively that Christ really was there although I wondered whether he was a human born before his time. Of course I also witnessed the raw hate openly exchanged between those factions.

The biblical stories will not have lost anything over the centuries and almost certainly have been embellished.

Before FINN/EVAN/DOTT I was not a total disbeliever and probably ready to be convinced.

Since the lies, outright anger, hate and bitterness from so called Christians I have become totally atheist.

I doubt if that will be of any concern to him/them

I offered help but the very mental problems, by their nature, prevent those afflicted from realising they actually do have those problems.
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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:05 pm

Hello Ernie,

Really, have you read bitterness, hatred and lies on any of my posts?

As far as I know, I have only posted verses about truth, justice, honour and love.


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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:07 pm

I get it, you think that I am Finnegan or Evan.

You are mistaken.

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Re: christianity

Postby Shelagh » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:05 pm

Really nice post Ernie, appreciate you sharing the Jerusalem experience, always interesting to hear different perceptions of the city!

Good to behave like grown ups, treating others with civility make for a more pleasant thread :D
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Re: christianity

Postby Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:22 pm

So, my dear D. If you are yourself, and nobody else, what brings you to the Bootle Forum which is thousands of miles from your habitat???
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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:50 am

Hello Ernie,

You have made accusations:

Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) wrote:FINALLY....FINALLY....

The biblical stories will not have lost anything over the centuries and almost certainly have been embellished.

Before FINN/EVAN/DOTT I was not a total disbeliever and probably ready to be convinced.

Since the lies, outright anger, hate and bitterness from so called Christians I have become totally atheist.

I doubt if that will be of any concern to him/them

I offered help but the very mental problems, by their nature, prevent those afflicted from realising they actually do have those problems.



To which I responded with denial:

Dott_of_8 wrote:Hello Ernie,

Really, have you read bitterness, hatred and lies on any of my posts?

As far as I know, I have only posted verses about truth, justice, honour and love.


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Waiting for your proof...


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Re: christianity

Postby Eddy Lloyd » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:17 am

Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) wrote:So, my dear D. If you are yourself, and nobody else, what brings you to the Bootle Forum which is thousands of miles from your habitat???


Ernie issue still waiting for your response Dotty
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Re: christianity

Postby Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:38 am

I can answer that D. You are he (beyond reasonable doubt). FINN is no longer here...theoretically. With your belief I would not recommend digging this hole too deep. :roll: :roll:

Let us all know why you are interested in Bootle....it will be a very simple matter to identify your Bootle background as surely someone here will know you from the past. Many folk know FINN from his Bootle past.

Everything points to him adopting yet another identity in order to remain on the site...he has previous form for this. However, the conduct he adopted that resulted in him eventually leaving (after many, many warnings I add) would result in another expulsion so through his new ID (DOTT) he would have to temper his/her posts somewhat to avoid yet another expulsion.

The only person who ever, ever used the word 'hate' was under the guise of FINN. This word appeared dozens of times in his posts. His rudeness and bitterness was a regular feature.

So. all things being equal, my point was directed at FINN, and so, at DOTT, who everyone knows is the same person(s).

Please answer my query that has been repeated by Eddie. Once (or IF) we see your reply then I am quite sure there will be many more questions.

Of course nobody will be surprised if you adopt the well publicised USA style to recluse yourself and resign.
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Re: christianity

Postby henry » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:15 am

Yes come on dotty tell us about your life of where you lived what street also your school and childhood friends as they may like to get in touch and talk about the old days of your life before emigrating
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Re: christianity

Postby Bonesy » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:06 pm

I am still of the opinion that it is only proper and good manners to introduce oneself when joining a forum or any group for that matter.
As I say just my opinion :wink:


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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:45 pm

Hello friends of the Bootle Forum,

I am Dott_of_8.
It's nice getting to know all of you.

I have already told you that I am not Finnegan or Evan.
I have seen some of Finnegan's posts going back to January - not seen any write anything nasty about any of you.
I have not seen a single post by Evan.
I wonder why you are all angry at Finnegan and Evan.
Many of you have posted nasty stuff about Finnegan - Why?

And now I have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I can hardly wait for the prescription meds to take hold.

Sorry, I can't help you with your confusion about Finnegan and Evan.

Ephesians 2:8 (ESV)
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,


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Re: christianity

Postby Ernie Jackson. (Bunty) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:48 pm

"No answer" ....................was the stern reply.

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Re: christianity

Postby henry » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:02 pm

Hello friends of the Bootle Forum,

I am Dott_of_8.
It's nice to getting to know all of you.
FROM HENRY
It would be nice to get knowing you also but WHO are you. Could you give us some details of yourself for eg where in Bootle you were born in fact Anything from past friends and neighbours and schooling also anything related to BOOTLE
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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:15 pm

2Timothy 3:16 (ESV)

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.


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Re: christianity

Postby henry » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:17 pm

Come on Dotty
Put your hand on your bible and tell the Truth the Whole truth and nothing but the truth so help your
GOD so dont be stupid and being a hypocrite and stop telling people your lies
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Re: christianity

Postby Eddy Lloyd » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:50 pm

Dotty stop dodging the issue, put the Bible down and answer the questions.
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Re: christianity

Postby Brunnyboy » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:23 am

your a phony
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Re: christianity

Postby Mack » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:54 am

As always folks "Do Not Click The Button" if you want a quiet life.

Dott of 8 please introduce yourself and let us know about how you found our Bootle website / forum.

Look forward to hearing about how you found us and your memories of Bootle in your posts.

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Re: christianity

Postby smoked out » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:37 pm

THE DEVIL RIDES OUT ?


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Re: christianity

Postby dannylewis » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:44 pm

Looks like Devil man has been unmasked , you can run but you cant hide wierdo /
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Re: christianity

Postby Brunnyboy » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:17 pm

so were all getting stalked
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Re: christianity

Postby smoked out » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:07 pm

waiting for dozy dotty to confirm if its her or what , sHE has gone quiet.
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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:32 am

Greetings one and all,

I am not gone.

As I have said from the beginning, I am not Finnegan.

This is social media and as such am not required to share any personal information.

All of you hate Finnegan - Why?
Can anyone tell me why Finnegan was removed from this forum?
Why don't you prove me that you do not hate Finnegan...
Just ask Mack to invite him back into the forum.

There seems to be confusion
Faith and religion are not the same

HERE IS RELIGION...
Notice that there is no mention of
-obeying religious men
-attending any religious service
-praying to statues with names
-observing Advent, Christmas, Lent or Easter
-praying with beads in your hand


HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT FAITH LOOKS LIKE...
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Romans 10:9-11
because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”

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Re: christianity

Postby gazV8uk » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:28 am

Refusal to answer a request from site admin as to interest in this forum, repeated requests to have Finnegan re-instated, dodging questions by other members about your interest in Bootle, no posts in any of the Bootle sections of this forum... Dott (or whoever you are today), you could just be another spammer for all we know!

This farce has gone on for so long now that it has ceased to amuse anyone anymore!
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Re: christianity

Postby smoked out » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:13 pm

Dott_of_8 wrote:Greetings one and all,

I am not gone.OH YES YOU ARE

As I have said from the beginning, I am not Finnegan. CORRECT YOU ARE EVAN FAWCETT

This is social media and as such am not required to share any personal information.

All of you hate Finnegan - Why? NOT ALL , I FOR INSTANCE DONT HATE HIM , I FOUND HIS ENTERTAINMENT VALUE FAIR TO GOOD , HIS MELTDOWNS ARE AS FUNNY AS HIS CLAIMS TO LOVE HIS GOD , PLUS I HAVE SPENT FAR TO LONG TRAINING HIM TO REACT IN THE WAY OF A MONKEY.
Can anyone tell me why Finnegan was removed from this forum? MAYBE HIS INSULTS AND BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS OTHER MEMBERS LED TO COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM AND THEY IN TURN LED TO HIS DISMISSAL , HE CANT STILL BE WHINGEING AND WHINEING HE WAS WARNED TO MODERATE HIMSELF , BASICLY HE ACTED THE CLOWN.
Why don't you prove me that you do not hate Finnegan...WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU
Just ask Mack to invite him back into the forum. NO THE MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN AND THEY DONT WANT YOU BACK OR YOUR ALTER EGO,S , GO SUCK A LEMON

There seems to be confusion WELL YES ,HOW MANY ON HERE HAVE ADVISED YOU OF YOUR CONFUSION , STILL TIME FOR YOU TO SEEK HELP
Faith and religion are not the same

HERE IS RELIGION...
Notice that there is no mention of
-obeying religious men
-attending any religious service
-praying to statues with names
-observing Advent, Christmas, Lent or Easter
-praying with beads in your hand


HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT FAITH LOOKS LIKE...
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Romans 10:9-11
because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”

God Bless the Bootle Forum

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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:22 pm

Dear Smoked Out,
I have two quotes from your last post.

"PLUS I HAVE SPENT FAR TO LONG TRAINING HIM TO REACT IN THE WAY OF A MONKEY"
__________
Also,

"MAYBE HIS INSULTS AND BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS OTHER MEMBERS LED TO COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM AND THEY IN TURN LED TO HIS DISMISSAL , HE CANT STILL BE WHINGEING AND WHINEING HE WAS WARNED TO MODERATE HIMSELF , BASICLY HE ACTED THE CLOWN."
__________

I didn't realize that you were actually helping Finnegan.
I have read back nearly to Christmas (about 6 weeks leading up to his being kicked out) and the only one being insulted was Finnegan and frequently at that.

Please feel free to quote Finnegan's fouls here.
It looks to me like he was kicked out for nothing.
__________

Therefore...

Why don't you ask Mack to invite Finnegan back into the fold?

Colossians 3:13 (ESV)
bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.

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Re: christianity

Postby Dott_of_8 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:26 pm

No response to any of this...

HERE IS RELIGION...
-obeying religious men
-attending any religious service
-praying to statues with names
-observing Advent, Christmas, Lent or Easter
-praying with beads in your hand
(Notice that there is no mention of these in the following verses)

HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT FAITH LOOKS LIKE...
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Romans 10:9-11
because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”

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Re: christianity

Postby Brunnyboy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:32 pm

all you do is quote a book wrote by man, a bible basher killed himself according to the news yesterday he got caught out he was having affairs with 7 women one for each day of the week its a wonder he had the strength left to turn up to church how many have you got on the go dott
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Re: christianity

Postby smoked out » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:45 pm

Dott_of_8 wrote:Dear Smoked Out,
I have two quotes from your last post.

"PLUS I HAVE SPENT FAR TO LONG TRAINING HIM TO REACT IN THE WAY OF A MONKEY"
__________
Also,

"MAYBE HIS INSULTS AND BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS OTHER MEMBERS LED TO COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM AND THEY IN TURN LED TO HIS DISMISSAL , HE CANT STILL BE WHINGEING AND WHINEING HE WAS WARNED TO MODERATE HIMSELF , BASICLY HE ACTED THE CLOWN."
__________

I didn't realize that you were actually helping Finnegan.
I have read back nearly to Christmas (about 6 weeks leading up to his being kicked out) and the only one being insulted was Finnegan and frequently at that.

Please feel free to quote Finnegan's fouls here.
It looks to me like he was kicked out for nothing.
__________

Therefore...

Why don't you ask Mack to invite Finnegan back into the fold? Why should I when he is here as you , the holy trinity , evan , finnagan and dott , the father the son and now you the holy ghost , many sites exist to discuss evans hobby , why are you not on them , I suggest they run rings round you and you copy and paste rubbish , when you try and debate with them maybe they make you look inadequate and foolish , your latest pretence at not being evan certainly does


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bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.

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