Does anyone know anything about the Teapot Murders (Millers Bridge)
that was supposed to have happened in Bootle?
what really happened? Is it true?
Martin from Bootle
Re: The Teapot Murders.
Found this post dated 6th of April 2005 on the Rootsweb.com site.
Very little info available online about it it seems.
Having bought Peter Wooley's latest book, I was interested to see mention of
the 'Teapot Murders' - so-called because they took place in Lyons Street. I
have members of my Deaves family living there in 1881 and 1891 and would like
to find out more about these murders. The census enumerator made a note in
his book - 'low Irish district'! Despite contacting Peter Wooley I have no more
real information although they must have generated a huge amount of interest
at the time. There are some passing references to 'the street that died of
shame' and, indeed, its name was changed to Beresford Street. Only a few yards
of the street now survives. Has anyone any further crumbs they can throw me?
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/EN ... 1112783029
Hi Martin You have got my interest in the teapot murders my ggrandparents lived in Lyones St in the mid 1800.my grandfather
married from 73 Lyones st my gmotherlived at 19 Lyones married in St Alexanders church bootle i to would like to find out ?? what was what.
love the site B/P/P. cheers Vera
I have sent an e-mail to Crosby Library to ask if they have anything on the Teapot Murders! Still waiting for a reply. Does anyone know when these murders took place? time scale?
I have also asked in my local post office, the staff there are great, they are making some enquiries with customers, so fingers crossed, we may get some answers.
I had a reply from Crosby Library and the only info they could give was from Peter Wooley's book.
Lyons Street was once teeming with all sorts of criminals, prostitutes etc. Two prostitutes were brutally murdered in the filthy hovels by 3 seamen. Dubbed The Teapot murders after the Tea company, because of the street's name.
It looks like a trip to Crosby to look through old newspapers!
I will look in the census records and see who lived in Lyons street in 1881, 91, 1901.
My grandad lived in 33 Lyons St in 1881, i have a book written by reg brookes called Never a dull Moment. he writes a little bit about Lyons St and the other 2 streets that were as notorious Raleigh and Dundas St. Lawlessness was rife in the area. these are some quotes from the book:
Lyons St .... towards the end of its' days was summed up in the Bootle Times in these words 'It was recognised as the worst thoroughfare in the borough and on many occasions has figured in the annals of crime (doesn't say what)
Lyons St.... where redoubtable females would settle quarrels among themselves with blows in public, sometimes adding to the drama by stripping off before they started.
Lyons st the street that died of shame.
The men of this area generally made a nuisance of themselves insulting passers by and inflicting gang terrorism on the passers by.
Nothing has changed that much!
Seriously though, I had a look on the 1891 census for Lyons Street, and I found that most of the residents were Irish born, dock labourers and Jute workers. I found The Yorkshire Vaults pub run by John R Williams. I found The Gainsborough Hotel at 20 Regent Road run by John N Griffiths.
I have been trying to get the 1881 on familysearch, but that has been going haywire!
I will have a look at 1901.
on the 1891 did the Brays still live in Lyons st at 33 and if so does it say where Patrick was from in Ireland
On the 1891 33 Lyons Street was occupied by Andrew Bray born Liverpool! along with Wife Mary and daughter Mary.
Brays in 1881:
Dwelling: 33 Lyons St
Census Place: Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancashire, England
Patrick BRAY M 47 M Ireland
Occ: Dock Labourer
Mary BRAY M 46 F Ireland
Ann BRAY U 22 F Ireland
Andy BRAY U 19 M Bootle
Occ: Dock Labourer
Mary BRAY U 17 F Bootle
Rosa BRAY 15 F Bootle
Eliza BRAY 13 F Bootle
Edward BRAY 11 M Bootle
Thomas BRAY 9 M Bootle
Maggie BRAY 8 F Bootle